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To: Antoninus
However, to claim that the activist homo agenda isn't part of the problem is just delusional.

There, we have to radically disagree.

With vouchers, you can send your kid to a school that promotes, or ignores, the "gay agenda". It's up to the parents. The activists have nothing to do with it.

The problem is a political one -- not a social one. The problem is govt managment of schools.

It said that any school which receives state funds (that would be vouchers too, if CA had a vouchers program) must comply with the state's homo-positive agenda.

Again, that is govt management of schools, which I would fight. That's not the kind of voucher program I would support. It has nothing to do with the gay agenda. It's just bad govt policy. Publicly fund, privately manage.

I'm sorry you consider difference of opinion to be "insulting."

It's posts like your #70 I'm referring to. I don't mind being flamed, but if you're gonnna, make it funny.

And also don't expect to have much success winning elections then. The Rs are only in power cuz the contract with America appealed to political Cs like me. If you're going to run around and attack us like you are, then don't be surprised if your party loses the power we helped to give it.

80 posted on 08/31/2006 10:52:34 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dominic Harr

"However, to claim that the activist homo agenda isn't part of the problem is just delusional.

There, we have to radically disagree.

With vouchers, you can send your kid to a school that promotes, or ignores, the "gay agenda". It's up to the parents. The activists have nothing to do with it. "

WE DONT HAVE VOUCHERS.

The same liberals that are indoctrinating my daughter today, with liberal PC literature, and in many areas (eg Massachusetts and Cali.) direct homosexual agenda agit-prop, are the same forces preventing real school choice and opposing use of taxpayers money for anything except a PC, secularist, liberal education for kids.

"The problem is a political one -- not a social one. The problem is govt managment of schools."

True, but does not refute his point. the "activist homo agenda" is a part of what the NEA touts. The agenda is bad because it is wrapped up in the liberal world-view that has determined that normative and traditional values are wrong and need to be overturned. This is the leftwing cultural-marxist and Gramscian agenda that is part and parcel of the educrats desire to control education.

You can decide to be a non-combatant in the culture war, but you should recognize it is going on.


83 posted on 08/31/2006 11:08:58 AM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Dominic Harr
Again, that is govt management of schools, which I would fight. That's not the kind of voucher program I would support. It has nothing to do with the gay agenda. It's just bad govt policy. Publicly fund, privately manage.

And Lord knows, we have had SO much success doing that. Let's deal with the real world, shall we? Public school monopolies are using government funds to teach homosexual indoctrination--and insisting that private institutions which receive state funds do likewise, using the force of law to back them up. Your solution is to scrap the public school system. Tell me, what's the constituency for that plan? Probably the same as the libertarian vote in each election--ca. 1.2%.

The Rs are only in power cuz the contract with America appealed to political Cs like me. If you're going to run around and attack us like you are, then don't be surprised if your party loses the power we helped to give it.

Of course, you know that inverse is true. Liberal Republicans win no elections without major help from the religious right. If the GOP abandons conservative positions on social issues, they will become a small minority party. Personally, I don't vote for liberals and won't vote for a liberal GOP.
85 posted on 08/31/2006 12:40:27 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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