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Wake Isle in Storm's Cross Hairs(190MPH Gusts & 36FT Waves. Wake's highest pt. is 20FT)
Star Bulletin ^ | August 31, 2006 | staff

Posted on 08/31/2006 10:18:14 AM PDT by kellynla

The Air Force is waiting for Super Typhoon Ioke to clear out of the way before it files back to survey Wake Island.

A Hickam Air Force Base spokesman said he does not expect that to occur until Sunday at the earliest. Once the 10,000-foot runway is deemed safe to use, an assessment team will be dispatched.

The super typhoon was expected to head straight for the three-island atoll. Last night, its eye was about 60 miles east of Wake, with the storm traveling west at about 10 mph.

"That's a bull's-eye, as far as I'm concerned," said Tim Craig, lead forecaster of the National Weather Service.

(Excerpt) Read more at starbulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: typhoon; wakeisland; weather
This may be the end of Wake Island. Everyone has been evacuated.
1 posted on 08/31/2006 10:18:15 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Ruh Roh.....


2 posted on 08/31/2006 10:21:10 AM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: kellynla

Probably not. Its utility as an emergency landing site is too great.


3 posted on 08/31/2006 10:22:39 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: Al Gator
Its utility as an emergency landing site is too great.

True - but the way they're talking is that you'll have to be in an amphib to use it after this.

4 posted on 08/31/2006 10:23:28 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: Tennessee_Bob

hehe ... the US military ARRIVED there in amphibs about 65 years ago ;-p


5 posted on 08/31/2006 10:24:40 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: kellynla

Wake Island was never destroyed by typhoons when Clinton was President...


6 posted on 08/31/2006 10:25:04 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Something is happening here but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?)
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To: Jim Noble

Yep, Bush's fault...


7 posted on 08/31/2006 10:27:03 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Jim Noble

Does this have to do with Global Washing?


8 posted on 08/31/2006 10:27:05 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: kellynla

It already hit Wake last night, and not everyone evacuated; one elderly French meteorologist stayed on the Island.

It got the Southern Eyewall.


9 posted on 08/31/2006 10:27:22 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: kellynla

http://users.ev1.net/~gpmoran/wake_island_134kb.jpg


10 posted on 08/31/2006 10:28:15 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Strategerist

Everyone with a functioning brain was evacuated then.


11 posted on 08/31/2006 10:28:45 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Strategerist
I got to give the French dude points for not running away . . . but do you think they'll even be able to find his body?

Seriously, I hope he survives and gets back in contact soon.

12 posted on 08/31/2006 10:29:24 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: kellynla

Clearly, typhoons must be banned...

Seriously, though, a storm of that magnitude will likely carry a 20-25 foot surge over the island, topped by 30-50 foot waves. The entire geography of Wake Island will be forever altered. Hopefully the runway will survive, but don't count on it.

At least they got everyone out in time.


13 posted on 08/31/2006 10:30:37 AM PDT by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: kellynla

Dunno about the end of Wake Island - the water will recede after the storm - but there might not be a lot left standing when it does. Lessee...20-foot maximum elevation, 36-foot waves...lemme get out my calculator...yeah. Yeah, I think I can see the problem here...


14 posted on 08/31/2006 10:31:52 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
Yeah, I think I can see the problem here...

Yeah - so do I. Bush blew up the levees!

15 posted on 08/31/2006 10:34:09 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: kellynla

It looks like Rove has re-programmed his weather machine to focus on the Pacific.


16 posted on 08/31/2006 10:36:35 AM PDT by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Not really, storms surge over the island regularly. The water recedes, the buildings dry out, a week later the geckos are chasing the ants like nothing happened.
17 posted on 08/31/2006 10:43:36 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: skimask

Haliburton (KBR) has the rebuilding contracts for Wake Island.

Professional courtesy, of course.


18 posted on 08/31/2006 10:49:09 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Al Gator

Not storms like THIS one!


19 posted on 08/31/2006 10:50:29 AM PDT by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: kellynla

I'm trying to fit in a "NO WAKE" sign joke in here somehow.


20 posted on 08/31/2006 10:51:31 AM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - Okay?)
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To: TampaDude

Ok, so you are saying the islands will sink? Or are you saying the ocean level will rise 20 feet and stay there?

Its coral, it won't "wash away".

It'll be there tomorrow. Trust me.


21 posted on 08/31/2006 10:54:37 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: freedomlover
Well, I understand that the Air Force is going to outsource this mission to Callaghan, Murphy, and O'Grady.

It will be known as the Irish Wake.

22 posted on 08/31/2006 10:56:31 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: TampaDude

This is an island isolated in the deep ocean -

You don't get nearly the water piling up in a surge like you do in the Gulf of Mexico, with shallows extending dozens of miles off the coast - you go right outside the reef at Wake and you've got a cliff of thousands of feet.

The surge won't be nearly as high as it would be on the US Gulf or East Coasts, and the fringing reef will break up a lot of the wave action.


23 posted on 08/31/2006 10:58:24 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Al Gator

Is it nesting time for the gooney birds or are they gone?


24 posted on 08/31/2006 11:03:18 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: freedomlover

25 posted on 08/31/2006 11:08:17 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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Since many FReepers on this thread have apparently forgotten the historical significance of Wake Island

A Magnificent Fight:
Marines in the Battle for Wake Island
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/USMC-C-Wake.html

United States Casualties
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USMC/Wake/USMC-M-Wake-III.html


26 posted on 08/31/2006 11:09:17 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

If it does get destroyed, they might be sorry about shutting down Johnston Island and leveling it a few years back.


27 posted on 08/31/2006 11:09:43 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I was in the house when the house burnt down.)
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To: Al Gator

Didn't there use to be a volcano?


28 posted on 08/31/2006 11:34:11 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: kellynla

It's been over 45 years since then, but, IIRC, when we landed on Wake during a trans-pacific flight, there were still several hulks of beached (Japanese?) ships visible very close to the shore...


29 posted on 08/31/2006 11:37:31 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Izzy Dunne

vewy, vewy clever. :)

30 posted on 08/31/2006 11:49:35 AM PDT by LNewman
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To: kellynla

I thought I heard a report earlier that the island is completely under water.


31 posted on 08/31/2006 12:22:23 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Jim Noble
Wake Island was never destroyed by typhoons when Clinton was President...

Rove made a mistake, he was aiming for Okinawa so Murtha couldn't put troops there.

32 posted on 08/31/2006 12:30:15 PM PDT by feedback doctor (HATE - The core value of liberalism)
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To: nuconvert

well, we'll just have to wait and see...


33 posted on 08/31/2006 12:36:06 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: SJSAMPLE
"Haliburton (KBR) has the rebuilding contracts for Wake Island."

They are no bid contracts too.

34 posted on 08/31/2006 12:38:37 PM PDT by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: Al Gator
The water recedes, the buildings dry out, a week later the geckos are chasing the ants like nothing happened.

In this case, I doubt there will be either buildings or animals. The island gets to start over in the evolutionary scheme of things.

35 posted on 08/31/2006 1:28:50 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Blueflag

I've played many a Battlefield game on that map. :)


36 posted on 08/31/2006 1:37:33 PM PDT by PureSolace (God save us all)
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To: Al Gator
Ok, so you are saying the islands will sink? Or are you saying the ocean level will rise 20 feet and stay there? Its coral, it won't "wash away". It'll be there tomorrow. Trust me.

It's not ALL coral...and Wake Island was in the eye of Ioke, which means it got blasted by the maximum winds, waves, and surge, TWICE, from different directions. The islands may not remain submerged, but they will be changed, probably dramatically, by this storm. Sand and debris will cover everything, including the runway. Equipment will likely have to be helicoptered in to clear the runway. Then, they get to rebuild everything from scratch. Reinforced concrete structures would survive, but they would be nothing more than empty shells after Ioke passed.

Any way you slice it, Wake is gonna be FUBAR.

37 posted on 08/31/2006 1:47:37 PM PDT by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: TampaDude

Well, we're going to find out soon. AF plans to send a few planes out to fly-overs and take pictures.

We should know the disposition in a day or two.

Fingers crossed.


38 posted on 09/01/2006 6:36:17 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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