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California Votes to Join the Third World
CEI ^ | 8/31/6 | CEI Staff

Posted on 09/01/2006 7:07:25 AM PDT by ZGuy

In what could prove a disastrous move for consumers and businesses, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is poised to sign legislation imposing statutory limits on greenhouse gas emissions in the state of California.

The system of restrictions, which calls for a 25% cut in emissions by 2020, is to be administered by the California Air Resources Board under a so-called “cap-and-trade” system. A cap-and-trade scheme will restrict the total emissions allowed, in effect functioning as a tax on energy use throughout the state.

“It is unfortunate that California’s state government would be pushing such a wrong-headed policy at a time that entrepreneurs and employers are already fleeing the state, due to some of the highest electricity and gasoline prices in the country,” said Competitive Enterprise Institute Senior Fellow Marlo Lewis.

With energy as one of the largest costs for industrial and manufacturing businesses, the increase in prices sure to come from an emissions cap will like drive jobs out of California to neighboring states. The legislation will also force consumers to use much less electricity and gasoline and to pay much higher prices for what they do use.

Moreover, it is unclear how California will keep utilities from simply increasing the share of power purchased from out-of-state sources – sources likely to be derived from coal-fired power plants – thereby actually increasing greenhouse gas emissions overall.

“While its actions are being lauded as a step into the future, California is actually a late entry into the already failed game of energy rationing,” said Director of Energy & Global Warming Policy Myron Ebell. “Europe, Japan and Canada are all failing spectacularly to meet their emissions reductions targets under the Kyoto Protocol, despite years of breathless cheerleading for cap-and-trade mechanisms. What California has done today is to decide to become a Third World economy.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; callegislation; capandtrade; globalwarming; sb1368; schwarzenegger; wrongheadedpolicy
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1 posted on 09/01/2006 7:07:25 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

As a state of the union, California has the right to make its own laws. As American citizens and businessmen, the people have the right to leave, which they will.


2 posted on 09/01/2006 7:13:00 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: ZGuy

Won't have much practical effect, since the tax structure has already driven most polluting-type industry out of the state anyway. Everybody (legal) works for law firms, software companies, or Starbucks. ;)


3 posted on 09/01/2006 7:13:31 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"Won't have much practical effect,"

If they really want to make a dent in greenhouse gas emissions they will need to significantly decrease the number of Taco Bell's.

4 posted on 09/01/2006 7:17:10 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ZGuy

I would say that they should de-energize the electric supply to Hollywood studios, to make more available "power to the people"....


5 posted on 09/01/2006 7:17:39 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: ZGuy

"What California has done today is to decide to become a Third World economy."

Works for me. We need jobs in Ohio. We don't have the weather California has, but we have lots of water, and outside of Cleveland, people will work with and for you. :)


6 posted on 09/01/2006 7:20:20 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: traditional1

That won't do a lot of good. Fewer and fewer movies are actually being filmed in Hollywood. Lord of the Rings was done in New Zealand and Titanic was filmed in Mexico.

And they dare lecture the nation about outsourcing to India....


7 posted on 09/01/2006 7:21:51 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: ZGuy

Ahnold has done nothing to help the Republican Party. I have no idea why he even calls himself a Republican. He's a RINO at best.

And you really have to question the judgement of anyone who marries a Kennedy.


8 posted on 09/01/2006 7:22:29 AM PDT by GianniV
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To: JamesP81
the people have the right to leave, which they will.

Which is unfortunate

because many of those will infect the states they flee to, by voting in people who push the same liberal policies they are in fact fleeing.

Dam Locust Liberals.

9 posted on 09/01/2006 7:24:04 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: ZGuy
That thunder you hear to the west is the stampede of businessmen leaving.

This would be a good time to invest in commercial real estate in Oregon, Washington, Arizona, etc.

10 posted on 09/01/2006 7:28:09 AM PDT by wbill
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To: ZGuy
Sounds like a mini-Kyoto.

Someone really needs to explain to me how creating a 'pollution market' where you can trade credits to pollute is supposed to REDUCE emissions.

No matter though... I expect the purpose and outcome will be the same as Kyoto.

People get to pat themselves on the back, fell like they are doing something good. Then when reality hits, get buyers remorse, not meet any of the goals, and just pretend that you still did good because "at least you tried"^tm
11 posted on 09/01/2006 7:30:14 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: ZGuy
I feel sorry for the few conservative who live in CA. They are slowly seeing their lives taxed out of existence. Those Dimos who remain are going to end up living in the trees they've been hugging for years 'cause they won't be able to afford anything else. They fight for controls on car emissions, but bitch about high gas prices on their special-blended fuels. They fight conventional and nuclear power generation, but bitch when they have power shortages. What is it out there? Do they all believe in a free lunch?
12 posted on 09/01/2006 7:40:13 AM PDT by econjack
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This is just the tip of the iceberg. Wait till California passes the state-run universal health care system put forward by Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica.

Check it out.
13 posted on 09/01/2006 7:48:07 AM PDT by Bloodclot
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To: FreedomNeocon

It's called "cap and trade". You set an overall limit on the amount of emissions you can produce within a state or region or country. Each company is assigned a certain number of pollution credits (the amount of pollutants they can produce per year)....which can be bought, sold, or traded on the open market.

California is also trying to impose their standards on other states through limiting long term contracts with out of state coal fired power plants. Given that coal energy supplies 20% of our energy supply.....and that the legislature apparently did not include an alternative for this power source.....it has to be one of the more stupid decisions made by our legislature, and that is saying something.

Term limits aren't good enough. We need a three month senate/assembly.


14 posted on 09/01/2006 7:59:34 AM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: ZGuy
China and India create most of the air pollution in the world . Imposing greenhouse gas restrictions will just continue to inhibit US industry and create a larger US trade deficit, while these polluting countries enjoy decreased market competition.

I propose that the liberals in California jump into the ocean . That would result in a significant reduction in CO2 emissions and annoyance here in California.
15 posted on 09/01/2006 8:05:25 AM PDT by pterional
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To: JamesP81
As a state of the union, California has the right to make its own laws.

The funds to purchase carbon credits go to the World Bank. As such, it is an international agreement. It is illegal for a State to enter international agreements under the Constitution.

16 posted on 09/01/2006 8:08:42 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Angelides v. Schwarzenegger is like deciding between ebola and cancer, respectively.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Won't have much practical effect, since the tax structure has already driven most polluting-type industry out of the state anyway. Everybody (legal) works for law firms, software companies, or Starbucks. ;)

I think you're mostly tongue-in-cheek in saying this, but still, you're falling for the left's rhetorical tactic of calling greenhouse gases "pollution," which they're not.

17 posted on 09/01/2006 8:21:05 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: ZGuy

What I'm wondering about with this measure is whether existing industry will be grandfathered-in with a certain amount of tradable credits for emitting greenhouse gases. If so, they could just shut the business' doors and rent out their credit annually for a nice income requiring no effort. Meanwhile, the purchaser of the credits will have to pass the costs on to us. Kind of the way the feds control peanut production and people who own growing rights rent them out to the actual growers. Lots of money to the rights owners for doing nothing at all.


18 posted on 09/01/2006 8:27:02 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: ZGuy
Time for a proposition to stop this insanity!

19 posted on 09/01/2006 8:43:19 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Good point.


20 posted on 09/01/2006 9:23:37 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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