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Pope fails to address 'intelligent design' theory of evolution
thisislondon.co.uk ^ | 04 September 2006 | Staff

Posted on 09/04/2006 8:42:37 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: andysandmikesmom; stands2reason

I know he's right.


61 posted on 09/04/2006 3:05:17 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

I do agree completely, that so far, this thread has been refreshingly devoid of any ad hominems...but the day is still relatively young...I hope this thread remains as such...


62 posted on 09/04/2006 3:10:21 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: StJacques

Beautiful, thanks so much SJ!


63 posted on 09/04/2006 3:27:22 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: andysandmikesmom

> I do agree completely, that so far, this thread has been refreshingly devoid of any ad hominems...but the day is still relatively young...I hope this thread remains as such...

Same here. I must admit I was really surprised to see religious opposition to evolution, given my Catholic school training on how science beautifully complemented my faith.

I'd love to see the rancor and bitterness fall away from this debate. Hey, dreams come true! :-)


64 posted on 09/04/2006 3:40:07 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: VictoryGal

I am not a Catholic, and really dont know a lot about Catholicism...however, when I came to these CREVO threads, I immediately did pick, from other posters experiences within the Catholic Church, and from links provided to me, concerning the Catholic Church and evolution, that indeed, the Catholic Church has very clearly thought out this supposed problem, and has dealt with it in a very wise way...


65 posted on 09/04/2006 3:47:38 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: RightWhale

Paley influenced the English divines who were interested in geology and whose views were sometimes called "gnostic". That's where Huxley got the tag "agnostic."


66 posted on 09/04/2006 3:52:18 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: highball

No, he does not claim special competence in the field. This is not inconsistent with Catholic atitudes since 1859. Not until the problem of modernism in religion came up and scholars began to treat the Scriptures as myth did the papacy say anything about the matter. Newman had no problem with Darwin, so long as he was discussing evidence. It was no such much Darwin as Darwinism that is the rub.


67 posted on 09/04/2006 3:56:44 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

Other technical types who acquired an overwhelming interest in theological matters later:
Pascal
Newton
Swedenborg


68 posted on 09/04/2006 3:56:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: andysandmikesmom
... the Catholic Church has very clearly thought out this supposed problem, and has dealt with it in a very wise way...

Whatever one may think of their theology, the Catholic Church is probably unique in their attitude about science. I doubt that any other denomination has anything remotely like the PONTIFICAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES. Click on the link there to check out the list of the Academicians. Stephen Hawking is one of the names (he's also one of the "Steves" in Project Steve).

69 posted on 09/04/2006 4:00:51 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Where are the anachronistic fossils?)
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To: RightWhale

I distinguish Pascal from the others, who were deeply into mysticism. But he certainly didn't confuse his scientific works with his speculations, religious or otherwise.


70 posted on 09/04/2006 4:02:04 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the links PH...as always, you provide lots of informative links...always appreciated...


71 posted on 09/04/2006 4:13:40 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: andysandmikesmom
Another service of
Darwin Central
The conspiracy that cares

72 posted on 09/04/2006 4:18:45 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Where are the anachronistic fossils?)
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To: PatrickHenry

Indeed...


73 posted on 09/04/2006 4:20:04 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: RobbyS

They were all very different. One even had a vast following in America.


74 posted on 09/04/2006 4:21:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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75 posted on 09/04/2006 4:40:07 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: VictoryGal
"Beautiful, thanks so much SJ!"

Wel VictoryGal, allow me to express my thanks for the way in which you got to the truth in a big hurry with only a few words. When I read your comment I felt I had to get into the mix.
76 posted on 09/04/2006 5:10:02 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


77 posted on 09/04/2006 8:57:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: StJacques

Thank you, StJaques, for such an exquisite posting. In all the years I've read, and occasionally posted to, the crevo threads, nothing I've encountered up to this point describes the context of science and religion as well as your post has. It is brilliantly succint, sincere and genuinely reflects a deep understanding of both science and the Christian faith that value each without expense to the other. Thank you. P.S. You must have been taught by Jesuits!


78 posted on 09/05/2006 5:47:49 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: StJacques
A couple observations: why twist ourselves around an explanation? That is what appears to be happening, in my opinion.

If the evidence "fits" a theory, then it fits.

Secondly, it appears (and I haven't read the whole text) as though this isn't an endorsement of evolution but rather an allowance for the same.

Just my two cents.

79 posted on 09/05/2006 7:20:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: StJacques

Well said my friend. Bookmarked for future reference.


80 posted on 09/05/2006 8:56:32 AM PDT by RightWingNilla
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