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Don't let the potheads ruin freedom
The Prometheus Institute ^ | 9/5/2006 | Editorial

Posted on 09/05/2006 8:16:10 AM PDT by tang0r

Generally, there are two types of marijuana users. First is the most commonly stereotyped “stoner,” depicted in the media of movies (e.g. Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High) and television (e.g. Shaggy from Scooby Doo). These are the dead-end job, ambitionless abusers who ingest marijuana to escape their already dismal lives. They represent the image which is most often associated with marijuana use. Certainly, the average American high school is teeming with similar directionless pot-smoking losers, further cementing this public perception.

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To: rhombus
Nice Liberaltarian Red Meat article.

Amen to that. It also brings out the paleo-angry too.

Are they not one in the same?

21 posted on 09/05/2006 8:34:24 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: staytrue
Pot is illegal unless you buy a license to use it. To get a license for personal use only, you pay 30,000 a year. That way only the high achievers can get it and the pot heads won't get it legally.

Yeah, great idea...let's give the government more power over the citizens' recreational habits. And btw, potheads ALREADY don't get it legally.

22 posted on 09/05/2006 8:34:58 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: JamesP81

From what I have seen, alcohol has a downside similar to pot.

But alcohol has more upside than pot. It apparently has some cardio benefits. Pot gives you reduced lung capacity and cancer in some cases.

Alcohol gets people to be more social. Pot puts you in your own little world.

On a cost benefit ratio, alcohol beats pot.

I will agree with you that for those who abuse, alcohol is just as bad or worse than pot.


23 posted on 09/05/2006 8:36:15 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Why not restrict booze and smokes to people who will pay an arm and a leg for it and use the proceeds for a tax cut on the middle class.


24 posted on 09/05/2006 8:37:00 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
"How about booze? Or tobacco? They do far more damage to society than pot."

Sez who? The pot smokers? And at the rate babies end up under state care, or become a welfare check generators, maybe that isn't a bad idea either.

25 posted on 09/05/2006 8:37:24 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: orionblamblam
"How about booze? Or tobacco? They do far more damage to society than pot."

Sez who? The pot smokers? And at the rate babies end up under state care, or become a welfare check generators, maybe that isn't a bad idea either.

26 posted on 09/05/2006 8:37:36 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ndt

Space Ghost? http://webpages.charter.net/superheroes/space_ghost.htm


27 posted on 09/05/2006 8:39:00 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: tang0r

You didn't post enough of the article to get to the point. Stop wasting our time.


28 posted on 09/05/2006 8:39:40 AM PDT by monday
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To: tang0r
Cannabis, like nearly everything else, can be misused or used beneficially, depending on the user. It can accelerate the demise of those who are otherwise disposed to slothful underachievement, but also enhance the performance of those determined to create and innovate.

Many a time it has helped me get motivated and enjoy cleaning my house, quite efficiently and thoroughly, I might add.

I for one, am for legalizing it. IMO, I don't think it's any more harmful than alcohol.
29 posted on 09/05/2006 8:40:02 AM PDT by Lucky9teen ( If you can't, you must. If you must, you can.)
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To: orionblamblam
Why not restrict booze and smokes to people who will pay an arm and a leg for it and use the proceeds for a tax cut on the middle class.

Not to criticize too harshly, but this smacks of higher taxes and wealth redistribution. I will have no part of it.
30 posted on 09/05/2006 8:40:18 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: orionblamblam

That was such a funny episode.


31 posted on 09/05/2006 8:40:45 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: tang0r

Does pot make you lazy? Check

Does pot make you dim and forgetful? Check

Does pot lead you to harder drugs? Check but only because once you start using it, you often begin to associate with users of other street drugs.

Are many pot smokers losers with no ambition? Check - some but not all.

Should you go to jail for using it? Nah...


32 posted on 09/05/2006 8:42:49 AM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (A storm is coming...)
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To: staytrue
Ok, how about this. Pot is illegal unless you buy a license to use it. To get a license for personal use only, you pay 30,000 a year. That way only the high achievers can get it and the pot heads won't get it legally.

How about a $50K/year alcohol use license instead?

33 posted on 09/05/2006 8:43:20 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: JamesP81
"I don't think marijuana is as dangerous as alcohol. I know that we get tired of hearing that comparison, but it is accurate."

That may have been true back in the days of low THC pot. Pot is much stronger than it used to be, and leads more often than not to other drug use.- "Getting dragged out from smoking pot day after day? wash down this little pill with your drink...."- is more common than you think, and that's because pot has become socially acceptable, and so are other drugs, like meth. If you think teenage kids can make rational decisions, you are daydreaming. That's why many of them end up on a slab at the morgue.

34 posted on 09/05/2006 8:45:08 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
If you think teenage kids can make rational decisions, you are daydreaming. That's why many of them end up on a slab at the morgue.

I'm not claiming that they can. Then again, I'm not convinced that adults are able to make rational decisions either. At some point you have to acknowledge that people can and will do stupid things, and you have to let them do them.

We don't let teenagers drink alcohol, but we let adults drink. The same rule should probably apply with pot.
35 posted on 09/05/2006 8:51:49 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: orionblamblam
"Why not restrict booze and smokes to people who will pay an arm and a leg for it and use the proceeds for a tax cut on the middle class."

have you been to Canada lately? $11.25 fora pack of smokes, $20 for a dozen beer, not to mention gas tax. Does any of this tax robbery provied "tax breaks for the middle class"? Nope. But socialist governments love the idea of taxing addictive substances and recreational drugs- booze included, and that is usually the line they use to sell it. I guess that tells us who you vote for, doesn't it.

36 posted on 09/05/2006 8:53:54 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: JamesP81

Pot was the 1st drug I used as a teen, then I went on to drinking. All my friends used it too. Most went on to using other drugs and left pot far behind. When I had children I stopped smoking it and stopped drinking. However many people I know swear its a gateway drug. I doubt it will be made legal as too much money is made from it being illegal. I feel bad for the people who want to use it medically.


37 posted on 09/05/2006 8:54:48 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: staytrue

On that note, I've never seen anyone get into a fight while stoned. Drunks, on the other hand...


38 posted on 09/05/2006 8:54:55 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Legalize it... Regulate it, Sell it along with alcohol and then Tax the hell out of it. Put that money into rehab clinics.

and then prosecute the dealers

NOW you have solved the problem.

Prohibition was a failure then and it's a failure now.


39 posted on 09/05/2006 8:55:04 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: tang0r
Don't let the potheads ruin freedom

It isn't potheads that ruin freedom. It's the jackboots who use this as an excuse to expand government powers who "ruin freedom" and the armchair drug warriors who cry "if you haven't done anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about" and of course "It's for the children" who ruin freedom. All potheads do is ruin themselves.

40 posted on 09/05/2006 8:55:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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