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Lebanon a warm-up for U.S.-Iran clash: Russian dip
Reuters ^ | Sep 6, 2006 | Oleg Shchedrov

Posted on 09/06/2006 4:30:03 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

MOSCOW (Reuters) - The United States used Israel's attack on the Hizbollah militia in Lebanon as a prelude to "settling accounts" with Iran, Interfax news agency quoted a senior Russian diplomat as saying on Wednesday.

Vladimir Trofimov, deputy head of the foreign ministry's Middle East department, was quoted making the comments the day before Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov begins a visit to the Middle East that will include Israel.

"If we look at Israeli and U.S. plans, they aim at removing the Hizbollah factor ahead of the forthcoming U.S. settling of accounts with Iran," Interfax quoted Trofimov as saying.

"This was a U.S.-Israeli conflict with the Islamic world, in which Iran has become a de-facto leader," he added. Trofimov, who has a record of making off-the-cuff remarks, was speaking at an informal round table discussion in Moscow.

Israel and the United States say Tehran supplies arms and cash to Hizbollah. President Bush has refused to rule out military action against Iran over its nuclear program.

Israel launched its offensive on Lebanon after Hizbollah killed eight soldiers and abducted two in a July 12 border raid. A fragile truce was brokered by the United Nations and came into effect on August 14.

Russia has acknowledged Israel's right to defend itself against Hizbollah attacks, but was critical of its offensive in Lebanon.

Lavrov is to visit Israel, the Palestinian territories, Lebanon and Syria between September 7 and 8.

In a newspaper interview published on Wednesday, he implicitly criticized Israel's calls to destroy Hizbollah and said it should instead be engaged in political dialogue.

"Hizbollah is a part of the Shi'ite community in Lebanon," Lavrov told government daily Rossiiskaya Gazeta.

The United States has been pressing Russia to give up its resistance to sanctions against Iran, which is suspected of trying to create nuclear weapons. Iran denies such plans and says its nuclear program is peaceful.

Russia has backed a U.N. resolution threatening economic sanctions against Iran if it fails to halt its nuclear program. Iran has said it will never abandon its right to nuclear technology.

But Lavrov said on Wednesday that the resolution ruled out the use of force against Iran.

Putin and Bush have good personal relations but the Kremlin's more independent-minded foreign policy -- especially in the Middle East -- has cooled relations between Moscow and Washington.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; ezekiel; ezekiel38; gog; gwot; hizbollah; iran; israel; russia; trofimov; trop; wot

1 posted on 09/06/2006 4:30:05 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I was going to yell at you for changing the headline.

But you didn't. It really was a Russian dip.


2 posted on 09/06/2006 4:32:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Are we really going to "settle accounts" with Iran?

Good, because they owe us big-time.
3 posted on 09/06/2006 4:33:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Admin Moderator

ROTFLMAO!


4 posted on 09/06/2006 4:33:49 PM PDT by mosquewatch.com (No Islam, Know peace.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I only hope he's right.


5 posted on 09/06/2006 4:34:14 PM PDT by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The SOVIETS have hopefully one thing right for a change,that The USA is ready to carpet bomb these stone age animals controlling iran once an ally to our nation.(thanks to carter)


6 posted on 09/06/2006 4:39:29 PM PDT by chrismich2610 (murha to run with hugo chavez)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What a wheez. The only question on an Iran invasion is:

"Should we go for a new world record on the fastest conquering of a nation... or should we let our current record stand?"


7 posted on 09/06/2006 4:44:08 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (No one can show me one shred of evidence that atheists even exist.)
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To: Admin Moderator
It really was a Russian dip.

LOL. It took me a while too to figure out that dip meant diplomat.

8 posted on 09/06/2006 4:46:01 PM PDT by Semper911 ("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -Marge Simpson)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

de facto leader?

Where I come from, whack the leader and everyone changes their tune. all aggression and hostilities end.

Near instantly.

I wonder would they also be the epicenter for terrorism?


9 posted on 09/06/2006 4:52:06 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Tailgunner Joe

what a dip


10 posted on 09/06/2006 4:53:18 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Every little bit helps

Iran has to be getting worried


11 posted on 09/06/2006 5:21:25 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: GulfBreeze
"Should we go for a new world record on the fastest conquering of a nation... or should we let our current record stand?"

I thought US want to establish democracy, not to conquer nations........
12 posted on 09/06/2006 6:22:46 PM PDT by Alex-DV ("Vladivostok is far but it's our city" (V. Ulyanov))
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To: Alex-DV

We do, conquering nations is just a step in the process sometimes. I go to a restaraunt to get fed, ordering the meal is a step in that process.


13 posted on 09/06/2006 7:48:43 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (No one can show me one shred of evidence that atheists even exist.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Hizbollah is a part of the Shi'ite community in Lebanon,"

I guess the Chechen headchoppers and toddler-dynamiters are part of the Russian community, too.

14 posted on 09/06/2006 7:50:32 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Alex-DV

Besides, don't take it out of context. My comment was in referrence to the idiot Russian diplomat who was trying to compare Israel's self defensive maneuver to a necessary US invasion of Iran.

The point was on the assumption that we have to go in, their could be no tactical comnparison.


15 posted on 09/06/2006 7:53:05 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (No one can show me one shred of evidence that atheists even exist.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

A Russian dip.
16 posted on 09/06/2006 8:33:47 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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"Hizbollah is a part of the Shi'ite community in Lebanon," Lavrov told government daily Rossiiskaya Gazeta."

Russian arms in Hizbullah hands cloud Lavrov visit (The Jerusalem Post - Sep. 7th, 2006)

17 posted on 09/06/2006 9:45:54 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: struwwelpeter

18 posted on 09/08/2006 2:35:43 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: denydenydeny
Of course they are. Not all of them are headchoppers. They have Russian citizenship, can move freely, can do whatever they want. There are Chechen in parliament, in president administration, in police. Often they have quite good education, but problem with them is, that their ancient traditions of slave-trading, vendetta and living by big clans are still alive, as 200 years ago. Relatives must help to each other, and must not give away relatives to nobody, must remember enemies of their clan and avenge. For 10 years of war in Chechnya population there doubled. Many Chechen have grown and become adult during war. Nobody knows, what to do, how to straighten situation.
19 posted on 09/08/2006 5:36:54 AM PDT by Sergei_DV
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To: Lukasz
What's that say on their shirts? "Doloi bolshogo brata"? Down with big brother? Well, I guess if reality shows don't work, Vladimir Vladimirovich can go back to rap:


20 posted on 09/08/2006 7:48:05 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter
What's that say on their shirts? "Doloi bolshogo brata"? Down with big brother?

I don’t know but this aggression in their eyes is gorgeous! :)

21 posted on 09/08/2006 8:01:11 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: lizol; Grzegorz 246; twinself

Some nice photos in this thread!


22 posted on 09/08/2006 8:02:15 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Tailgunner Joe

On the Paranoia/Conspiracy/Conjecture scale this ranks 3.5 out of five Grassy Knolls.


23 posted on 09/08/2006 8:04:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Lukasz

My podnimem vse (We'll raise anything)
24 posted on 09/08/2006 8:24:53 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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