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To: Calvin Coollidge

So, if you (or your significant other or loved one) were brought in on 9/11/01 as one of the WTC survivors, with burns so severe that your clothing was gone and you'd passed out from the pain and shock, your identity was unknown, and you were dying, you'd want the doctors to stand around and wait for you to be identified and for your next of kin or guardian to give permission before they stuffed you in a hyperbaric chamber to try to save your life. Or would you want them to stuff you in the chamber first to try to save your life and ask stupid questions later? I very much think the latter is the case here.

Hyperbaric chambers as immediate treatment for burns were an "investigative medical device" on 9/11/01. And no, it's not like an iron lung - after the treatment time was up, you are removed from the chamber.


26 posted on 09/07/2006 12:07:48 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I could give hypothetical scenarios to the contrary point of view but I won't. Its really pointless. As I said this is a tough call. I acknowledge your point of view and your arguments hold water. But IMO no one should be subjected to experimental medical practices w/o some form of consent.

On a side note I know something about burns. And if a loved one of mine were brought in on 9/11 with the injuries you are describing which I am presuming mean 3rd degree burns over most of the body, as painful as it would be for me... I hope I would have the courage to let them go. I know someone who was burned very badly in a fire but not as badly as you are describing. His life has been hell on earth since then.


30 posted on 09/07/2006 12:24:09 AM PDT by Calvin Coollidge (The last really great president.)
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To: Spktyr
I haven't read all the particulars on what type of authorized treatment can be given, but does an experiment have to used specifically for the patient's welfare? Can an experiment be used for general medical study?

Family to Dr: "Did you everything possible to save their life?

Dr's reply: "They were going to die anyway, so we implanted electrodes in his brain and upped the amps to abnormally high levels, unrelated to their condition, to test a product in trials."
32 posted on 09/07/2006 12:27:09 AM PDT by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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