Posted on 09/07/2006 10:49:07 AM PDT by presidio9
Let me take this thing a bit further. Old Europe and New Europe both seem to have either a short memory span or a deliberate long term memory loss. While my graduate work at USC focused primarily on the late Roman Empire and specifically on the Roman Military through research of the ‘Notitia Dignitatum,’ one can’t seriously read European history without including the bloody clashes with Islamic Jihadists’ that have extended from the 7th century to this day.
Nothing new. Even the names are re-runs of Islamic historic rational and motivation: Hezbollah = Party of God; al-Qaeda = The Base (for Islamic International Domination); and Islamic Jihad = (well) Islamic Jihad.
When these people (i.e. Ayman al-Zawahiri) say that their goal is take everything and have Islam prevail ‘from Spain to all of Iraq’ they mean it and see it as a historical holy mandate from Allah.
The uniformed will try to blame the current Western worlds bad ‘relationship’ with the Muslim world on Bush or having to do with Israel or even blame the Crusades. Sorry, it goes back much, much further and Europe has been in a continuous state of war which spans most of post Roman (Western Empire) history:
637 AD – Jerusalem falls to Muslim forces
641 AD - Muslim conquest of parts of Georgia and Armenia, Eastern Europe
667 AD – Sicily attacked by Muslims
711 AD - Al-Andalus, Muslim conquest of Spain and the Iberian peninsula begins
725-30 AD - Muslim forces take French towns, Nimes, Narbonne, Avignon
732 AD - Battle of Tours/Poitiers, France, Charles Martell halts Muslim forces in their further expansion into Europe
827 AD - Islamic Conquest of Sicily. They were finally kicked out by the Normans around 1097
846 AD - Muslim forces sack Rome and the Vatican
911 AD – Muslim forces control all the passes in the Alps between France and Italy
920 AD – Muslim forces cross Pyrenees and enter Gascony and reach the gates of Toulouse, France
1033 AD – Castille, Spain is taken back from the Muslims
1045-1099 – El Cid, becomes a hero of Spain and attempts to drive Muslims from Spain
1095 AD - Pope Urban calls for 1st Crusades to regain Holy Land from Islam and trade routes to the east. This fight between Christians and Muslims last about two centuries.
1492 AD - Spain finally forces out Muslims who have ruled over 700 years
1683 AD – Battle between Muslim forces from Turkey and the Habsburgs at Vienna, Austria
1683 AD – till the present is more of the same….blah, blah, blah.
Of course this is a SHORT, select list of Islamist ‘tolerance and peaceful’ exchange with the western world. Now if we can learn this list at our little old USC South Carolina colleges, you’d think that the ‘enlightened’ Europeans and especially SPAIN could see that they are in ‘deep $#!@’ for the umpteenth time with the Muslims.
As I heard someone remark a long time ago, “Islam has bloody borders.”
The problem is that Islam keep trying to spill over their borders to our borders which is the way it has been for their entire history.
Katherine Jenerette
www.jenerette.com/senate
I am sure charles martel was only defending europe and christianity for bigotry reasons /s
Not in the non-existence of adversaries.
True conservatives believe that there will be conflict as long as there are things worth fighting for, and that there is much that is worth fighting for.
Not in regarding as abnormal and pathological the mere existence of conflict between human beings.
True conservatives believe that the most important thing about any man is his philosophy and the morals he lives by, that they matter more than any earthly factor you can name.
Not in regarding beliefs as matters of utter indifference and of no consequence.
You don't represent the true conservatives in this discussion.
We had to mount a "merciless crusade" in order to eradicate Nazism and Japanese militarism.
It was St. Patrick's Day, IIRC.
ping
Leftist tripe from a r-ght-liberal.
If the shoe fits, wear it.
I suppose I should say something brilliant and meaningful her.
However, all I can think of is.....
Allah Snack-bar.
Darn.....her = here
In order to qualify you must serve like Ralph, Wesley Clark or Murtha. /s
Thanks for the ping.
Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
He's absolutely right, of course.
"and, when you read between the lines, that all Muslims are evil and subhuman."
Unfortunately, you don't have to read between the lines much around here.
This surprises me because I usually like Peters' columns. He's a retired MI Officer and has generally supported President BushHis views on Islam are the same as the President's.
-Eric
I remember the neo-NAZIs siding with the terrorists and enjoyed 9/11
So the liberals want to make comparisons - where's the right-winger now? White separatists admire blacks who advocate segragation.
Not all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arab.
Wanna try that again?
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