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Senate finds no al-Qaida-Saddam link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060909/ap_on_go_co/iraq_report&printer=1;_ylt=AlFeyYQY3doHliSOov7HGpKMwfIE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE- ^ | By JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 09/09/2006 4:22:45 AM PDT by indyreb

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To: LibLieSlayer

That's the same thing I heard. If true (and I also bank on Fred Barne's analysis), then it is another example of the MSM using Clintonesque language manipulation to skew the facts.

Just like Katie Couric the other night (I swear I only tuned in to see Rush) referring to Valerie Plame as an "undercover CIA agent". Even Wolf Blitzer had the sense to use a less blatant adjective ("operative") in his newscast. Truth is that she was an analyst. The language lends itself to the lie that a law was actually broken because her job did not qualify as being protected from being revealed.

You can find these types of subtle manipulations all across the spectrum of the MSM. The AP and Reuters are notorious and, unfortunately, these are the sources for most of the content in our local newspapers.

One really must dig on their own to know the all the relevant information related to current events. Most people don't bother and are left to make voting decisions based on the evening news and only a passing understanding of the issues. Is there hope for America?


41 posted on 09/09/2006 7:13:05 AM PDT by Thickman (The answer is TERM LIMITS!)
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To: Chuck54

What is really scarey is that these are the morons we elected to work for the voters.


42 posted on 09/09/2006 8:10:19 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: indyreb
Saddam "was distrustful of al-Qaida and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime."

....."Saddam only expressed negative sentiments about bin Laden."

....it would be an "extreme step" for Saddam to assist Islamist terrorists in attacking the United States.

I am quite sure Hitler did not trust the leaders of Italy and Japan. I'm also quite sure they did not trust him, especially after seeing what he did with the Soviets.

This argument that Hussein and al-Qaida could not or would not cooperate against the US because they did not trust each other is totally false and an effort to distort reality for political gain at the expense of US security.

43 posted on 09/09/2006 10:20:39 AM PDT by SteamShovel
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To: xzins

Not the Repbulicans. Two RINO Senate Taitors too arrogant to admit they have been wrong on Iraq since the word go.

Senator's Hagel and Snow


44 posted on 09/09/2006 12:41:53 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie

I'd rather we take any money we're throwing at Snow be used instead on a Senator from a Bush state. The only way Snow keeps her seat is by being a liberal Rino. Better to kick a democrat out of a seat in in a red state. In the long run, it will be less susceptible to attack, and the senator won't have to be a liberal rino just to keep his seat.


45 posted on 09/09/2006 12:45:55 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Steel Wolf

Which is why they are framing the arguement this way. Al Qeda links to Saddam were not anywhere in the justification for the war. The Democrats are rewritting history and LYING that Saddam-Al Qeda was an arguement. Read it here. NOT a word about Al Qeda. Once again the Democrats are simply lying again.

Everyword quoted here is every bit as factual and true today as it was when it was said. Trusting to Saddam's good faith, as the Democrats argue with hindsite we should of done, was NOT an option.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html

Our nation and the world must learn the lessons of the Korean Peninsula and not allow an even greater threat to rise up in Iraq. A brutal dictator, with a history of reckless aggression, with ties to terrorism, with great potential wealth, will not be permitted to dominate a vital region and threaten the United States. (Applause.)

Twelve years ago, Saddam Hussein faced the prospect of being the last casualty in a war he had started and lost. To spare himself, he agreed to disarm of all weapons of mass destruction. For the next 12 years, he systematically violated that agreement. He pursued chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, even while inspectors were in his country. Nothing to date has restrained him from his pursuit of these weapons -- not economic sanctions, not isolation from the civilized world, not even cruise missile strikes on his military facilities.

Almost three months ago, the United Nations Security Council gave Saddam Hussein his final chance to disarm. He has shown instead utter contempt for the United Nations, and for the opinion of the world. The 108 U.N. inspectors were sent to conduct -- were not sent to conduct a scavenger hunt for hidden materials across a country the size of California. The job of the inspectors is to verify that Iraq's regime is disarming. It is up to Iraq to show exactly where it is hiding its banned weapons, lay those weapons out for the world to see, and destroy them as directed. Nothing like this has happened.

The United Nations concluded in 1999 that Saddam Hussein had biological weapons sufficient to produce over 25,000 liters of anthrax -- enough doses to kill several million people. He hasn't accounted for that material. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed it.

The United Nations concluded that Saddam Hussein had materials sufficient to produce more than 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin -- enough to subject millions of people to death by respiratory failure. He hadn't accounted for that material. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed it.

Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent. In such quantities, these chemical agents could also kill untold thousands. He's not accounted for these materials. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed them.

U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents. Inspectors recently turned up 16 of them -- despite Iraq's recent declaration denying their existence. Saddam Hussein has not accounted for the remaining 29,984 of these prohibited munitions. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed them.

From three Iraqi defectors we know that Iraq, in the late 1990s, had several mobile biological weapons labs. These are designed to produce germ warfare agents, and can be moved from place to a place to evade inspectors. Saddam Hussein has not disclosed these facilities. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed them.

The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a nuclear weapon and was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb. The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production. Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide.

The dictator of Iraq is not disarming. To the contrary; he is deceiving. From intelligence sources we know, for instance, that thousands of Iraqi security personnel are at work hiding documents and materials from the U.N. inspectors, sanitizing inspection sites and monitoring the inspectors themselves. Iraqi officials accompany the inspectors in order to intimidate witnesses.

Iraq is blocking U-2 surveillance flights requested by the United Nations. Iraqi intelligence officers are posing as the scientists inspectors are supposed to interview. Real scientists have been coached by Iraqi officials on what to say. Intelligence sources indicate that Saddam Hussein has ordered that scientists who cooperate with U.N. inspectors in disarming Iraq will be killed, along with their families.

Year after year, Saddam Hussein has gone to elaborate lengths, spent enormous sums, taken great risks to build and keep weapons of mass destruction. But why? The only possible explanation, the only possible use he could have for those weapons, is to dominate, intimidate, or attack.

With nuclear arms or a full arsenal of chemical and biological weapons, Saddam Hussein could resume his ambitions of conquest in the Middle East and create deadly havoc in that region. And this Congress and the America people must recognize another threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own.

Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained. But chemical agents, lethal viruses and shadowy terrorist networks are not easily contained. Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans -- this time armed by Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known. We will do everything in our power to make sure that that day never comes. (Applause.)

Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option. (Applause.)

The dictator who is assembling the world's most dangerous weapons has already used them on whole villages -- leaving thousands of his own citizens dead, blind, or disfigured. Iraqi refugees tell us how forced confessions are obtained -- by torturing children while their parents are made to watch. International human rights groups have catalogued other methods used in the torture chambers of Iraq: electric shock, burning with hot irons, dripping acid on the skin, mutilation with electric drills, cutting out tongues, and rape. If this is not evil, then evil has no meaning. (Applause.)

And tonight I have a message for the brave and oppressed people of Iraq: Your enemy is not surrounding your country -- your enemy is ruling your country. (Applause.) And the day he and his regime are removed from power will be the day of your liberation. (Applause.)

The world has waited 12 years for Iraq to disarm. America will not accept a serious and mounting threat to our country, and our friends and our allies. The United States will ask the U.N. Security Council to convene on February the 5th to consider the facts of Iraq's ongoing defiance of the world. Secretary of State Powell will present information and intelligence about Iraqi's legal -- Iraq's illegal weapons programs, its attempt to hide those weapons from inspectors, and its links to terrorist groups.

We will consult. But let there be no misunderstanding: If Saddam Hussein does not fully disarm, for the safety of our people and for the peace of the world, we will lead a coalition to disarm him. (Applause.)

Tonight I have a message for the men and women who will keep the peace, members of the American Armed Forces: Many of you are assembling in or near the Middle East, and some crucial hours may lay ahead. In those hours, the success of our cause will depend on you. Your training has prepared you. Your honor will guide you. You believe in America, and America believes in you. (Applause.)

Sending Americans into battle is the most profound decision a President can make. The technologies of war have changed; the risks and suffering of war have not. For the brave Americans who bear the risk, no victory is free from sorrow. This nation fights reluctantly, because we know the cost and we dread the days of mourning that always come.

We seek peace. We strive for peace. And sometimes peace must be defended. A future lived at the mercy of terrible threats is no peace at all. If war is forced upon us, we will fight in a just cause and by just means -- sparing, in every way we can, the innocent. And if war is forced upon us, we will fight with the full force and might of the United States military -- and we will prevail. (Applause.)

And as we and our coalition partners are doing in Afghanistan, we will bring to the Iraqi people food and medicines and supplies -- and freedom. (Applause.)


46 posted on 09/09/2006 12:47:22 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: diallo

The evidence on hand is more than enough to convince anyone who is interested in facts.

It is a fact that Iraq, Iran, alQaeda, and other terrorist groups met at the Beirut conference prior to 9/11. It was reported by major media outlets at the time.

To say there were no Iraq/Al Qaeda ties is ignorant.


48 posted on 09/10/2006 11:40:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: diallo

The Beirut Conference was an annual event.

It is basic group theory, d. The closer two actors are in space the more likely they will interact.

The more often two actors are in space within interaction distance, the higher the improbability that they have not intereacted.


50 posted on 09/12/2006 2:07:58 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Reform4Bush

ping for later use


51 posted on 09/12/2006 2:12:04 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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To: diallo

http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/030425/2003042510.html


53 posted on 09/13/2006 2:49:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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