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Serbs Still Being Framed
Politial Mavens (linked from Jewish World Review) ^ | 09/07/2006 | Julia Gorin

Posted on 09/09/2006 6:19:59 AM PDT by FormerLib

The AFP reported last month that there was an explosion at the grave of Bosnia's wartime president and Muslim hero Alija Izetbegovic. Izetbegovic, who was finally, reluctantly, being investigated by the Hague for war crimes against Serbs and others at the time of his death, is buried in a "martyrs'" cemetery, as he requested.

Naturally, we are meant to think that the grave bombing was committed by a Serb or Serbs, especially with AFP adding this tidbit: "Tensions have risen in Bosnia in recent days after the broadcast of footage showing a former Muslim general, Atif Dudakovic, ordering his troops to burn down Serb villages at the end of the country's 1992-1995 war." And this one: "Bosnian Serbs, however, are strongly antagonistic about Izetbegovic, whom they accuse of war crimes." And this: "Bosnian Serb officials remained silent about the incident."

The attack "drew strong condemnation from Muslim leaders and the international community's top envoy in Bosnia, Christian Schwarz-Schilling, who called for calm and said he felt 'shocked and saddened'."

Here's the update that AFP didn't carry; only Serbia's traditionally anti-Serb, Soros-funded "B92″ news agency had it: B92 cited local daily Nezavisne Novine, which reported that police have arrested Rahim Amulj, a Muslim, in connection with the bombing. He was already a suspect in three explosions in November in a Bosnian town called Travnik. From B92: "Ramulj, who had confessed to placing the three bombs in Travnik, was set free due to the Municipal court's error. In May 1999 he was convicted, along with six others, to three and a half years in prison for mining Croatian homes and placing explosive devices in front of the Bugojno Municipal council chairman Ivo Mrša's house."

Let's recall that last year bombs were found at the Srebrenica memorial for Muslims killed in the Bosnia war. In that case, too, evidence pointed toward a Bosnian-Muslim, and a man was arrested and later released because of a lack of evidence. It was yet another anti-Serb frame-up — happening while Fox News mimicked every other news outlet on the planet in broadcasting footage of Bosnian-Serb paramilitary killing six Muslim fighters — to somehow prove that another 8,000 were killed the same way, and to reinforce the same old propaganda we swallowed throughout the 90s.

And in 1995, we bombed the Bosnian Serbs when Bosnian Muslims bombed the Markale marketplace.

Meanwhile, Albanian Muslims have pretended to be Serbs while on missions to attack UN installations, as former UN Major General Lewis MacKenzie wrote in 2004.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antichristian; appeasement; balkans; bosnia; clintonlegacy; islamofascists; jihad; serbia; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime; wrongwar
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To: sandra_789

"The Holocaust Museum still repeats verbatem the Titoist lies" --

That is the most disgusting thing I have seen in a long time."

I was very upset when I went to the US Holocaust Museum website and found that they still use the old communist propaganda re "Mihailovic as a Nazi collaborator http://www.ushmm.org/uia-cgi/uia_doc/photos/2178?hr=null , and they don't mention the Legion of Merit Award, nor the rescue of American pilots. They also list Serb victims at Jasenovac as "prominent Serb nationalists" http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/index.php?ModuleId=10005178&Type=normal+article (click on personal stories below Jovanka's name and it will give you 3 stories which all use this terminology) I wrote to them and I suggest that everyone else should as well.


21 posted on 09/09/2006 2:54:37 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Sorry about that. The Museum moved the page on Mihailovich : http://www.ushmm.org/uia-cgi/uia_doc/photos/2192?hr=null


22 posted on 09/09/2006 3:01:04 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: wideminded
Oh, yeah, so objective. What do you know about the Serbian problem? People like you, who have nothing to offer, tend to exaggerate their speak by using the words "always" and "Most" in the world. That is simply nonsense.

Let me tell you, if a group of people came to your house and kicked your ass and destroyed your place for 78 days and a bunch of Muslims came and took over your neighborhood and kicked you out, I don't think you would exactly be thinking about when you can be friends some day and just get over it. You have no clue about the Serbian problem. The Serbian problem is people who have no clue what they are talking about and just regurgitate the CNN bile. The Serbian problem is the Islamic conquest of the world and you better learn that well because it will be at your door step just the same.

What made it worse is that your buddy Bill was looking for every opportunity to help the Islamic cause in the Balkans. I also bet you simply ignore the Serbian CLEANSING of NOW CROATIAN KRAJINA? Does it bother you that Croatia NEVER OWNED ALL OF DALMATIA THE WAY IT DOES NOW? Does it bother you that Kosovo was never Albanian and that Serbs were purged from the region after several wars? Who do you think built all of those churches in Kosovo that have stood 100 times longer than anything you have seen in your neighborhood? The Muslims?

Would you then support the separation of Florida if the LATINOS decide to separate from the union? Do you really think that is so impossible?

Complete nonsense.

The Serbs got it stuck to them and that is a cold hard fact. Do you really think the Hague is a legitimate court? Then why doesn't the US recognize its authority over her own statesmen and citizenry?

The Hague was to justify the means. Nothing else. Some of the worst Islamonazi killers were let go by the Hague while others where put away based on hearsay. Do you know the procedures of the court there? Do you know what is permissible? Do you know the statues?

You will find that it is not all just in the Serbian mind. It's real. Maybe you know that already but are just here to dirty the water.
23 posted on 09/09/2006 3:17:36 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: Bokababe

Greatest tragedy of today is not war in Iraq, not war in Afghanistan, not Middle East, but the fact that USA and Serbia are so much simmilar in political wiew, in conservative issues, and USA still is hostile towards Serbia. They two would make such great allies


24 posted on 09/09/2006 3:23:59 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary (Go IDF!))
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To: FormerLib

Good Post!


25 posted on 09/09/2006 3:28:42 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Bokababe; sandra_789; joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; ...
Bokababe, historical documents are wonderful place for hindsight analysis.

In March 1948, President Truman posthumously awarder Medal of Merit to General Mihailovich.

At that time, Tito was firmly in Stalin's fold, two bit commie dictator and U.S. had no reason to be afraid to anger him, quite contrary.

Only three months later, in June 1948 Tito renegged against Stalin.

The entire world was taken by surprise when Tito said NO to Uncle Joe. I would say, it was not that difficult when he had Uncle Sam behind him.

I guess that this is the reason why the Medal of Merit was kept secret. U.S. was not afraid of angering two bit commie dictator, but of ruining on-going plan to use Tito as a silent partner in Commie block.

26 posted on 09/09/2006 3:44:26 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Bokababe

That is disgusting communist propaganda---at a US "museum."

Disgusting---and hard to believe.


Something should be done about that.


27 posted on 09/09/2006 3:54:28 PM PDT by sandra_789
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To: wideminded

You don't have a clue, do you?


28 posted on 09/09/2006 3:55:36 PM PDT by sandra_789
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To: DTA

Nice try--but it doesn't wash.

Milhalovitch was betrayed by Churchill long before that.


29 posted on 09/09/2006 3:59:28 PM PDT by sandra_789
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To: Bokababe
Every so-called "encyclopedia" has the communist slander of Milhalovitch.

Dragoljub Draza Mihajlovic (1893-1946), colonel [ Milhalovitch was a GENERAL--and the head of the Yugoslav army--calling him a 'colonel' illustrates the falsness of this crap right as it begins ] in the Yugoslav army and leader of the Chetniks. Born in Ivanjica, Serbia, Mihajlovic fought in the Balkan Wars (1912-1913) and World War I. By the time of the German invasion of Yugoslavia in April 1941, he had obtained the rank of colonel in the Yugoslav army. After the Yugoslav surrender, Mihajlovic gathered around him a group of Serbian soldiers who were united in their loyalty to the royal house and organized them into a underground [ There was nothing 'underground' about the Chetniks ] militia that became known as the Chetniks. In 1941 Mihajlovic was appointed minister of war by King Peter and the Yugoslav government-in-exile. In July and August of that year, Mihajlovic and his men took part in the uprising against the Germans, during which he cooperated [ TOTALLY FALSE in every way. He never 'co-operated with commie Tito in any way. What a STRANGE choice of words ] with the Yugoslav partisans under Josip Broz Tito. The uprising, however, was brutally suppressed by the Germans, leading Mihajlovic to rethink his position. He concluded that there was no point in fighting against the Germans, [ TOTALLY FALSE---He and the Chetniks fought the Germans throughout WWII. Their blowing up of the trains carrying tank parts through Yugoslavia to the top of Italy which were meant to supply Rommel in Africa was a major factor in the defeat of Rommel ] that his focus should be on the fate of Yugoslavia after the war, and that his true enemy was the communist partisan movement under Tito. [ Correct. When Milhalovitch fought the Germans, Tito hung around the back and attacked Milhalovitch as he was fighting the Germans ]. As a result, Mihajlovic left off his struggle with the German invaders by the end of 1941 [ HORSES**** ] and gradually developed a collaborative relationship with the Italians and Germans against the partisans. [ That is raw propaganda. Milhalovitch and the Chetniks rescued and spirited to safety over 500 US fliers shot down by the Nazis. Why is there NO MENTION of this basic fact? ] In response [ to a communist spy infiltrating the British Intelligence located in Africa and replacing Milhalovitch's name with that of Tito every time Milhalovitch fought the Germans in war dispatches sent to Churchill ], the Allies switched their support to the partisans who were fighting the Germans [ FALSE--They were fighting the Chetniks ] and came to view the Chetniks as Nazi collaborators. [ DISGUSTING ]After the occupation of Serbia by the partisans and the Soviet army, the Chetniks were hunted down. Mihajlovic went into hiding, but was captured and arrested on March 13, 1946. Found guilty [ by communist Tito's kangaroo court ] of treason and collaboration, he was executed in Belgrade in 1946. [Source: Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, English edition, S.v. "Chetniks."]

30 posted on 09/09/2006 4:22:14 PM PDT by sandra_789
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To: sandra_789

I have no doubt that Truman had realized the United States and Great Britain's error and the medal was awarded as a result.

Roosevelt may have been delusional enough to believe that the US and Communists could coexist, but the Truman Doctrine in 1947 declared that the United States would actively resist the expansion of Communism.

Hindsight, you know.


31 posted on 09/09/2006 4:26:56 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: All

Some good books on WWII Yugoslavia:

"The Web of Disinformation" by David Martin

"The Rape of Serbia" by Michael Lees

"Wartime" by Milovan Djilas.

The Web of Disinformation actually ties the WWII Soviet disinformation re Yugoslavia to a guy named Klugman in Cairo who not only handled all WWII British intelligence reports on WWII Yugoslavia, but who also recruited the infamous Soviet double-agents, Burgess and Philby, while they were at Cambridge. Really interesting stuff!


32 posted on 09/09/2006 4:28:47 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: FormerLib
But Dean Acheson still ran things at the State Dept. under Truman

and Acheson refused to acknowledge or reply to the message sent to him by over 500 US fliers rescued by Milhalovitch and his Chetniks

during the phony "Star Chamber" trial communist Tito held for Milhalovitch before "convicting" Milhalovitch and shooting him to death on a golf course.

David Martin wrote three books on Milhalovitch.

The first is titled ALLY BETRAYED.

The last of the three books pinpoints the communist British spy who worked his way into British military intelligence reporting to Churchill from Africa who replaced Milhalovitch's name with that of Tito in each report sent to Churchill from Yugoslavia on [what was actually Milhalovitch and the Chetniks] fighting the Germans.

The spy's name was James Klugman.

David Martin spent decades traveling back and forth from the US to England to finally uncover Klugman--whom he terms the "Fifth Man," along with the other British traitors Kim Philby, Guy Burgess, Donald Maclean and Anthony Blunt.

This final book by David Martin is titled THE WEB OF DISINFORMATION----CHURCHILL'S YUGOSLAV BLUNDER.

published by Harcourt Brace Iovoanovich: 1990

33 posted on 09/09/2006 4:43:06 PM PDT by sandra_789
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To: sandra_789
Sandra, in 1990 when this book was writtten, British documents about the biggest WWII hoax were still under wraps. Now we know more about this deception plan.

It is fascinating story Germans were constantly fed false information where the second front in Europe will be opened. Hitler was led to believe that it will be Adriatic after Sicily. And it was the main reason why he held 16 divisions in the Balkans.

Tito was part of this deception plan. Radio London constantly augmented the number of his troops. Tito's emisaries (Velebit et al. ) contacted Germnans and offered to fight together when the Allies land (sic!). Hiter refused it, but the British bait was served. When it became difficult to hide the massive buidup in England, Gen. Patton was put in charge of complete bogus army that gave impression of landing plans north of real Overlord landing in Normandy.

Some parts of these documents are still classified.

Why Churchil trusted Tito? My wild guess is because was triple agent, working first for the Germans, then for the Soviets and finally for the Brits. I would put the time of his recruitment in 1937, when he formed Politburo of Yugoslav Commubist party without Commintern's instruction. Somebody instructed him, for sure.

There is a well documented episode. After the Brits saved Tito's hide after Otto Skorceny's descente in Drvar and airlifted Tito to island of Vis, Tito clandestinely flew with Soviet plane to Moscow to meet Stalin. Churchill was furious. It is odd, Tito was a declared commie and went to see Stalin, nothin unusual and can not explain Churchil's anger, except if Tito was OHMSS and did not inform superiors of his initiative beforehand. This requires a lot of archive digging.

34 posted on 09/10/2006 3:19:53 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
That's Why David Martin's third book on the betrayal of Serbian General Milhalovitch was titled

WEB OF DISINFORMATION

CHURCHILL'S YUGOSLAV BLUNDER

Harcourt Brace Ivanovic: 1990


35 posted on 09/10/2006 5:44:55 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: DTA

DTA,

David Martin interviewed the Brits directly involved in Yugoslavia in WWII. He made repeated trips to England over a period of decades for that purpose.

He had to handle British intelligence and military people involved in WWII at lunches etc. on his trips to England.

Over a period of decades they gradually gave more information.

That is how David Martin uncovered James Klugman, the communist who the British idiots let replace Milhalovitch's name with Tito's every time Milhalovitch and the Chetniks fought the Germans.

Your comment "This requires a lot of archive digging."

shows me you are of the same mentality as the typical university professor.

You can't conceive that live people exist and can actually contacted , talked to, and ---if handled with intelligence--can be gotten to talk.

David Martin did this over a period of decades.

Your comment "when this book was written" is typical of the self-important members of academia.


36 posted on 09/10/2006 5:57:08 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: sandra_789
Sandra, I am not bellitling Martin and the job he has done. I agree with everything you say, but in world of cloak and dagger, two and two is often four, but not always. The problem appears when the story was faceted and divided into working parts on need to know basis. A person who knows several facets may tell it all to you, but the piece that was deliberatelly withold from him may put it into different light. It is like a broken vase, you have to put it all together. The problem is , you often do not know how the vase looked like. Then, you have to make several reconstructions until you make one that fits the description of the period vase.

Many things about WWII are stll classiffied for a reason- it shows how the things were done and why. When the known pieces of the puzle are put together, classified although can not be read stand out as a white sillhouette.

Here is a riddle. During WWII, U.S. was in dire shortage of pilots, the casualties over German skies were around 50%. Yet, U.S. did notthing to airlift 500 American and 100 other allied flyboys from Serbia, although Mihailovich begged Americans to come and rescue them. The question is why. Also,why those 500, the largest U.S. airmen recue behind the enemy lines were ignored and their story remained unknown to American public, even 60 years after the war.Capt. O'Grady was given his five minutes of fame, they were flattly denied. I would say, their story was not over when the war ended.

37 posted on 09/11/2006 1:34:06 AM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
During WWII, U.S. was in dire shortage of pilots, the casualties over German skies were around 50%. Yet, U.S. did notthing to airlift 500 American and 100 other allied flyboys from Serbia, although Mihailovich begged Americans to come and rescue them. The question is why

America did rescue them and used a number of Serb-Americans to do it -- Misulin, Lalich, Stepanovich. America did not trust the British to get them out, nor did America even trust British intelligence in the Balkans because everytime they had -- something went wrong. All communication lines were directly with Americans.

And this may answer your second question -- if the real truth be told, British intelligence was compromised. (This was later proven by "the Cambridge set" affair.) But Britain & the US always cover each other's flubs.

38 posted on 09/11/2006 1:39:25 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: DTA

Here is a pretty detailed account of the WWII rescue of the American pilots from Yugoslavia (below the photos): http://www.pogledi.co.yu/english/airbridge/index.php


39 posted on 09/11/2006 7:07:40 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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