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To: conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; chilepepper; ...
A ping for all of you here.

By way of general comment may I say that what we really are dealing with in the Oaxacan situation is an instance in which the Mexican Left has advanced their cause by seizing upon popular indignation over a recognizably-corrupt state government headed by Ulises Ruiz, of the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI). And not only is Ruiz corrupt, he's also stupid, which has caused things to spin out of control.

The beginnings of this conflict back in May actually started with a teacher's union strike which Ruiz aggravated by sending in riot police, who beat up on the strikers pretty bad, seized their radio station, and jailed many of the strike leaders. But the strikers only moved into the center of the city, seized another radio station, and barricaded the area off from any further attempts by the Governor to oust them. And when that happened, the truly radical leftists were able to move in and take over the protests. And when I say "truly radical," I mean out-and-out Marxists, who fly the hammer and sickle. They are demanding the release of the jailed strikers, and some of them have been let go, but more importantly, they are insisting that Ruiz step down. Ruiz's response was to organize some paramilitary groups who killed a few strikers in hopes that they would simply give up and go home, but it only propelled the protest forward.

The Fox administration has refused to intervene in the Oaxaca situation, and my take on their attitude is that they have pretty much told Ruiz that this affair is of his making and he is going to have to fix it. But they have made clear that they are not going to stomach his use of force as a means of solving the problem. It's a situation in which Fox and the PAN party have nothing to gain -- they get very few votes in Oaxaca anyway -- and everything to lose, because they could very well face popular indignation elsewhere if they back Ruiz, who is pretty much hated throughout Mexico right now.

I believe the only way out of the Oaxaca crisis is for Ruiz to step down and for elections to be held. That will take the steam out of the truly radical protest leaders of APPO, who really have no place in a campaign anyway. It will mean that the Oaxacan state government will pass into the hands of the PRD, which is not something I find particularly palatable, but it is certainly better than mass violence running amuck in the streets. And I would love to see what will happen when the PRD tries to give these leftists what they are demanding, which is impossible of achievement anyway.
16 posted on 09/12/2006 12:33:53 PM PDT by StJacques ( Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Thanks for Pinging the crew. As per usual, a local corrupt despot violently puts down legitimate grievances of a segment of the population. That segment is joined by a group of radicals who quickly take control and further polarize the situation. If Ruiz fails to see the handwriting on the wall and refuses to resign, and instead continues to escalate the situation (no doubt to the glee of the Marxists), what is to be done? At some point it would seem that Fox will have to step and have the military take control to protect life and property. Not knowing the constitutional powers of the Federal government, could he get the consent of congress and the judicary to take such action?


17 posted on 09/12/2006 12:48:39 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: StJacques; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; ...
And not only is Ruiz corrupt, he's also stupid

At what point does this become Calderón's problem?

Calling for Ruiz to step down and then declaring elections might hand this state to the PRD, who hypocritically enough, have already taken a number of elected offices there by outrageous fraud.

18 posted on 09/12/2006 12:58:38 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What does it matter if we’re all dead, as long as the French respect us.)
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To: StJacques

Bump!!


20 posted on 09/12/2006 1:03:48 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: StJacques

How nice of Venezuela's Chavez to say he doesn't want to meddle in the internal affairs of Mexico:


http://www.mexiconews.com.mx/20351.html


30 posted on 09/13/2006 10:59:52 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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