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Son Gets Marijuana for Doing Homework
http://www.comcast.net/ ^ | 9 12 06 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/12/2006 11:14:43 AM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: Know your rights
"He would have been 100% correct in saying "has been given significant support by scientists."

The scientists said nothing about marijuana. They were studying THC.

Delta-9-THC, for example, inhibits primary Lewis lung tumor growth, whereas cannabidiol (CBD) enhances tumor growth. How can you possibly conclude that smoking marijuana (which contains both) would have a positive effect?

151 posted on 09/23/2006 10:38:36 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Big difference between not knowing and asking a question and not knowing and stating a fact. MrLeRoy is not smart enough to recognize this, but I thought you might be.
Uh...I don't have a clue to what you're talking about.
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152 posted on 09/23/2006 12:22:39 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: robertpaulsen
In the absence of any known link between other cannabinoids and increased Alzheimer's, my conclusion (which was "support" not definitive proof) is sound. If you know of such a link, let's hear about it.
153 posted on 09/23/2006 12:23:24 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

You're right...Medical marijuana supporters have been claiming since 1996 that marijuana helps stop alzheimers disease. That claim has been given significant support by scientists.
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154 posted on 09/23/2006 12:26:40 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: robertpaulsen
The scientists said nothing about marijuana. They were studying THC. Delta-9-THC, for example...

You're grasping at straws.
Journal of the American Medical Association, Dr. Lester Grinspoon MD:
"The main active substance in cannabis, 9-tetrahydrocannabinol (9-THC), has been available for limited purposes as a Schedule II synthetic drug since 1985. This medicine, dronabinol (Marinol), taken orally in capsule form, is sometimes said to obviate the need for medical marihuana. Patients and physicians who have tried both disagree. The dosage and duration of action of marihuana are easier to control, and other cannabinoids in the marihuana plant may modify the action of 9-THC. The development of cannabinoids in pure form should certainly be encouraged, but the time and resources required are great and at present unavailable. In these circumstances, further isolation, testing, and development of individual cannabinoids should not be considered a substitute for meeting the immediate needs of suffering people."
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155 posted on 09/23/2006 12:40:28 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: bigfootbob

Not much has changed, many people still smoke marijuana, I am 21 and know many of my friends parents smoke on a regualr basis. Even people who you would never think would smoke do, like your doctor or lawyer.


156 posted on 09/23/2006 12:44:14 PM PDT by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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To: Know your rights
"In the absence of any known link between other cannabinoids and increased Alzheimer's, my conclusion (which was "support" not definitive proof) is sound."

So if a chemical in gasoline helps Alzheimer's, then drinking gasoline is OK. And you call that a "sound" conclusion.

Go away you troll.

157 posted on 09/24/2006 8:55:53 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: mugs99
"Dr. Lester Grinspoon MD"

Oh geez, screw that quack.

I'm referring to the Scripps Research Institute study YOU cited which concerned THC, not marijuana. You can't make these global assumptions about the efficacy of marijuana when the study limited itself to THC.

158 posted on 09/24/2006 9:15:20 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Oh geez, screw that quack
ROFL!
The American Medical Association is a bunch of quacks?
Why don't you try to refute his statement instead of the ad hominem attack?

I'm referring to the Scripps Research Institute study YOU cited which concerned THC, not marijuana. You can't make these global assumptions about the efficacy of marijuana when the study limited itself to THC.

Still grasping at straws?
The title of the study: "A Molecular Link Between the Active Component of Marijuana and Alzheimer's Disease Pathology"
THC is the active ingredient in marijuana. It doesn't matter if you eat it, smoke it or swallow a THC pill. Doctors are treating Alzheimer's patients with medical marijuana. It works.
159 posted on 09/24/2006 10:45:53 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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"Why don't you try to refute his statement instead of the ad hominem attack?"

Because he's a pro-marijuana quack. "Immediate needs of suffering people", indeed.

"THC is the active ingredient in marijuana."

Yep. And that's all that was studied -- not the other 399 chemicals in marijuana which may or may not have a counteractive effect.

160 posted on 09/24/2006 11:29:08 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
In the absence of any known link between other cannabinoids and increased Alzheimer's, my conclusion (which was "support" not definitive proof) is sound.

So if a chemical in gasoline helps Alzheimer's, then drinking gasoline is OK.

No, because unlike non-THC cannabinoids there's a known link between gasoline drinking and adverse health outcomes. This logic stuff is difficult for you, I see.

161 posted on 09/24/2006 11:58:37 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
"No, because unlike non-THC cannabinoids there's a known link between gasoline drinking and adverse health outcomes."

And no such link exists with marijuana? That's what the scientific study found? So marijuana is safe for those with Alzheimer's, according to this study?

162 posted on 09/24/2006 12:15:56 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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And no such link exists with marijuana?

No KNOWN link, like I said.

163 posted on 09/24/2006 12:20:15 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
"No KNOWN link, like I said."

Which means what? That marijuana is safe to use by people with Alzheimer's, according to the study? Somewhat safe? Dangerous? What?

How can you possibly conclude that a THC study gives the green light to smoking marijuana?

164 posted on 09/24/2006 12:41:46 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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So if a chemical in gasoline helps Alzheimer's, then drinking gasoline is OK.

Zing!

165 posted on 09/24/2006 7:43:50 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: robertpaulsen
Which means what?

As I said, in the absence of any known link between other cannabinoids and increased Alzheimer's, the research under discussion gives significant support to the claim that marijuana helps stop Alzheimer's disease.

166 posted on 09/25/2006 12:00:51 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
"As I said, in the absence of any known link between other cannabinoids and increased Alzheimer's, the research under discussion gives significant support to the claim that marijuana helps stop Alzheimer's disease."

"The Fallacy of Composition is committed when a conclusion is drawn about a whole based on the features of its constituents when, in fact, no justification is provided for the inference."

167 posted on 09/28/2006 5:05:44 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
1. The parts of the whole X have characteristics A, B, C, etc.
2. Therefore the whole X must have characteristics A, B, C.

Straw man ... who said "must"?

168 posted on 09/28/2006 6:17:32 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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