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Princeton Professor Singer: And I repeat, I would kill Disabled Infants
LifeSiteNews | 9/12/06 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 09/12/2006 4:28:08 PM PDT by wagglebee

PRINCETON, September 12, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a question and answer article published in the UK's Independent today, controversial Princeton University Professor Peter Singer repeats his notorious stand on the killing of disabled newborns.  Asked, "Would you kill a disabled baby?", Singer responded, "Yes, if that was in the best interests of the baby and of the family as a whole."

People who oppose Singer's position have maintained that Singer is the logical extension of the culture of death and that society will eventually embrace his stance if there is no shift to the culture of life.  Alex Scadenberg, Executive Director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition commented to LifeSiteNews.com about Singer saying, "at least he's consistent."  In fact, Singer himself uses the abortion debate to justify his murderous stance. 

"Many people find this shocking," continued Singer, "yet they support a woman's right to have an abortion."  Concluding his point, Singer said, "One point on which I agree with opponents of abortion is that, from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the foetus and the newborn baby."

Singer's position, similar to the culture of death, is that there is no inherent dignity in man, there is no sanctity of human life.  Man deserves no special treatment since, Singer rejects that man was created in the image and likeness of God. 

Asked about the choice between killing 10 cows or a human, Singer said he would kill the cows, but not because they were of less value, but because humans would mourn the death more.  "I've written that it is much worse to kill a being who is aware of having a past and a future, and who plans for the future. Normal humans have such plans, but I don't think cows do. And normal humans have family and friends who will grieve their death in ways more vivid and longer-lasting than the way cows may care about other cows. (Although a cow certainly misses her calf for a long time, if the calf is taken from her. That's why there is a major ethical problem with dairy products.) If I really had to make such a decision, I'd kill the cows."

Schadenberg commented saying, "Once again Singer is making distinctions between human beings he would consider normal and those he would consider not normal, thus he is deciding who is a person and who is not.  Non-persons are allowed to be killed."  The Euthanasia Prevention Coalition leader concluded, "even though Singer does not like to be compared to the Nazi's especially since his parents died in the Holocaust, his philosophical position is identical to what the Nazi's proposed.  The Euthanasia Prevention Coalition is primarily concerned for the lives of people with disabilities and other vulnerable persons."

See the whole interview:
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article1466409...



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykillers; campuscommies; campusradicals; cultureofdeath; deathcult; eugenics; moralabsolutes; nazis; petersinger; prolife; selfloathingjews
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"Many people find this shocking," continued Singer, "yet they support a woman's right to have an abortion." Concluding his point, Singer said, "One point on which I agree with opponents of abortion is that, from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the foetus and the newborn baby."

Well then their is no distinction between a fetus and a fully grown eugenicist, so may Singer should abort himself.

1 posted on 09/12/2006 4:28:09 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback; narses

Pro-Life Ping


2 posted on 09/12/2006 4:28:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Irish_Thatcherite

Ping.

This is totally disgusting!


3 posted on 09/12/2006 4:29:29 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Moral Absolutes Ping!

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First they want to kill the unborn, then the newborn and the infirmed, next it will be whomever they deem "unworthy of living." It is no different than Hitler.

4 posted on 09/12/2006 4:31:10 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Wow. I'm glad you pinged those guys. This is sick.


5 posted on 09/12/2006 4:31:44 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: wagglebee
Singer does not like to be compared to the Nazi's


6 posted on 09/12/2006 4:32:01 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: wagglebee

Singer is a Nazi - but at least he is consistent. He'll kill anyone!


7 posted on 09/12/2006 4:32:11 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: wagglebee

"Singer does not like to be compared to the Nazi's especially since his parents died in the Holocaust"

Talk about not learning from history .....


8 posted on 09/12/2006 4:32:45 PM PDT by Disturbin (Welcome to society -- morons with keys)
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To: wagglebee

Ahh, Singer, everyone's favorite nutcase.


9 posted on 09/12/2006 4:33:12 PM PDT by ahayes ("The wicked flee when no one is pursuing, but the righteous are as bold as a lion." -- Prov 28:1)
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To: wagglebee
And I repeat, the morally disabled should be summarily fired from any position of authority or responsibility.
10 posted on 09/12/2006 4:33:53 PM PDT by bvw
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To: wagglebee

Singer has advocated killing unwanted babies ever since he was hired at Princeton. Apparently, that's why he was hired.

He also advocates bestiality.

Princeton has really gone down the tubes, with the rest of the Ivy League Colleges. Alumni should not give them a dime while they have monsters like Singer on their payroll.


11 posted on 09/12/2006 4:34:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wagglebee

At least this guy takes a consistent position unlike most people who call themselves pro-choice. This is what groups like NARAL really believe but are afraid to say, for now.


12 posted on 09/12/2006 4:34:47 PM PDT by Timedrifter
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To: wagglebee

One day someone will have a say in his old age whether or not he is a contributing member to society. What will he say then, if he can. Human life is precious and to protected at all costs. It's beyond disgusting.


13 posted on 09/12/2006 4:35:36 PM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: wagglebee

Singer is a supreme Darwinist. This kind of horrific thinking is its natural ourworking.


14 posted on 09/12/2006 4:35:38 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Disturbin; Michael Goldsberry
"Singer does not like to be compared to the Nazi's especially since his parents died in the Holocaust"

Okay fine, maybe he won't mind being compared to the Taliban, Stalin, Saddam, Pol Pot or Nero.

15 posted on 09/12/2006 4:35:50 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
So does that mean we can kill people who have become disabled later in life?

Surely Stevie Wonder, Steven Hawking, Helen Keller, Franklin Roosevelt, Marlee Matlin and Christopher Reeve would have had to been killed when they became disabled.

Right?
16 posted on 09/12/2006 4:37:52 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: wagglebee

Singer advances what I consider to be an evil position. But it is good that he does so in an up-front manner. The man who advances his evil position by stealth and with lies is a far greater danger.


17 posted on 09/12/2006 4:38:01 PM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: JCEccles

Wow. That's quite a leap.


18 posted on 09/12/2006 4:38:49 PM PDT by kellynch ("Our only freedom is the freedom to discipline ourselves." -- Bernard Baruch)
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To: wagglebee
People who oppose Singer's position have maintained that Singer is the logical extension of the culture of death and that society will eventually embrace his stance if there is no shift to the culture of life.

Exactly right! I would bet that the majority of the opinion shapers in the MSM embrace his viewpoint right now.

19 posted on 09/12/2006 4:41:46 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: wagglebee

Vell, Herr Doktor Singer, ve may may a place for uns in our Third Reich!

20 posted on 09/12/2006 4:42:23 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: kellynch

"But then some animals are more equal than others and therfore some humans are less equal than some animals and should be treated as less important citizens and if you'd follow me into this chamber it will all be clear..."


21 posted on 09/12/2006 4:42:27 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: wagglebee

Peter is one of the most evil men on planet earth. One wonders why lightening hasn't struck him yet. The problem is so many agree with him and revere him. Mostly liberal democrats of course, but also many in the medical profession have been brainwashed and desensitizes to death.


22 posted on 09/12/2006 4:43:12 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: wagglebee
Asked, "Would you kill a disabled baby?", Singer responded, "Yes, if that was in the best interests of the baby and of the family as a whole."

Abortus of Borg

23 posted on 09/12/2006 4:43:36 PM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: wagglebee

Well if it is just that simple let me give it a shot.... Ahem.

" Question: Should professor singer be allowed to live?"

"Not if it is in the best interest of society...." And whom is to decide what is in the best interest of society? Why not Free Republic? Seems like a perfectly acceptable authority in which to decide Dr. Singers value and usefulness....

That logic holds as much validity as Singers. I am wondering if he would like to live under such a decision making strategy?


24 posted on 09/12/2006 4:44:06 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: wagglebee

[The Euthanasia Prevention Coalition leader concluded, "even though Singer does not like to be compared to the Nazi's especially since his parents died in the Holocaust, his philosophical position is identical to what the Nazi's proposed. The Euthanasia Prevention Coalition is primarily concerned for the lives of people with disabilities and other vulnerable persons."]

I wonder who raised Singer, if his parents died in the Holocaust - their jailers? Or maybe it was wolves.


25 posted on 09/12/2006 4:44:23 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: wagglebee
If I really had to make such a decision, I'd kill the cows

I'd rather kill a cow than Peter Singer, the cow is much better to eat.

26 posted on 09/12/2006 4:44:26 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 90-96)
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To: texson66

Vielen Dank. Das war was ich suchte.


27 posted on 09/12/2006 4:45:55 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: JCEccles; wagglebee; kellynch
"Singer is a supreme Darwinist. This kind of horrific thinking is its natural ourworking."

"Wow. That's quite a leap."

Agreed. Just sweep up all the people with whom you disagree, and paint them with the same broad brush.

28 posted on 09/12/2006 4:46:31 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
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To: wagglebee

I think SS-Totenkopfverbande would fit Singer well.


29 posted on 09/12/2006 4:47:00 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: Aussie Dasher



"He'll kill anyone!"

Anyone that can't defend themselves. I'd like to see him try to take out my eldest brother. Imagine a Mike Tyson sort of fellow up against a Gilligan (of Gilligan's Island) sort of fellow.

To prey on the defenseless and weak. Singer is a murderer.






30 posted on 09/12/2006 4:48:15 PM PDT by This Just In ("that protectionism, socialism, and communism are basically the same plant" The Law; F. Bastiat)
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To: wagglebee

Is he the reincarnation of Himmler?


31 posted on 09/12/2006 4:48:49 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: wagglebee

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32 posted on 09/12/2006 4:49:39 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Liberals embrace the sin......Christians embrace the sinner.)
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To: proudofthesouth

Some should ask him how he'd feel about killing retarded adults.


33 posted on 09/12/2006 4:49:49 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: proudofthesouth

More likely Eichmann or Mengele.


34 posted on 09/12/2006 4:50:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Why hasn't this total psychopath been locked away yet?


35 posted on 09/12/2006 4:50:47 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: Tribune7

He would probably agree with it.


36 posted on 09/12/2006 4:51:26 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: wagglebee

Oh those insightful "Progressives"... wanting to "progress" our society back to the times of the Spartans.


37 posted on 09/12/2006 4:51:33 PM PDT by somniferum (Annoy a liberal.. Work hard and be happy.)
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To: This Just In

I have publicly debated Singer in years gone by.

He told me a good portion of his family were killed by the Nazis, then went on to preach philosophy straight from Hitler's mouth. Strange fellow!


38 posted on 09/12/2006 4:52:24 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: proudofthesouth

I'm sure he would, BUT would he admit it?


39 posted on 09/12/2006 4:52:43 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: wagglebee

If this guy had lived in the 30's&40's he would have performed experiments in Hitler's death camps.


40 posted on 09/12/2006 4:54:18 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: wagglebee

Slippery slope.. Educated evil fool.


41 posted on 09/12/2006 4:54:36 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY

If he had his way, he would be doing it in the United States today.


42 posted on 09/12/2006 4:55:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Aussie Dasher



What was the topic of your debate? Was it a fair debate?

"Stange fellow!"

Evil fellow.



43 posted on 09/12/2006 4:55:14 PM PDT by This Just In ("that protectionism, socialism, and communism are basically the same plant" The Law; F. Bastiat)
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To: somniferum
Oh those insightful "Progressives"... wanting to "progress" our society back to the times of the Spartans.

Yes let's bathe the children in wine and leave the weak ones on the mountainside.

44 posted on 09/12/2006 4:56:06 PM PDT by Semus Dynnen
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To: wagglebee; All

MUST READ:

"The Sanctity of Life"
http://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/200509--.htm

http://www.utilitarian.net/singer/

[During the next 35 years, the traditional view of the sanctity of human life will collapse under pressure from scientific, technological, and demographic developments. By 2040, it may be that only a rump of hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalists will defend the view that every human life, from conception to death, is sacrosanct.]

This man is dangerous.


45 posted on 09/12/2006 4:56:50 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: wagglebee

bump for publicity


46 posted on 09/12/2006 4:57:09 PM PDT by VOA
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To: wagglebee

I can't help but think that this (whatever in the hell he is) just likes to say outrageous things to get publicity.


47 posted on 09/12/2006 4:57:39 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: msnimje

"So does that mean we can kill people who have become disabled later in life?"

We'd best decide soon. The abortion survivor generation is coming to where they will be supporting their parent's generation and I have no reason they will treat us any better than our generation treated them: wanted, live; a burden, die.


48 posted on 09/12/2006 4:58:54 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: OldPossum
Read post #45

I believe he's dangerous. If Mr. Singer wanted publicity, he could have simply accompanied Boy George to a Drag Race. That would have made the headlines even in a monastery.
49 posted on 09/12/2006 5:02:36 PM PDT by This Just In ("that protectionism, socialism, and communism are basically the same plant" The Law; F. Bastiat)
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To: wagglebee

(excerpt)
The mother of Princeton bioethics professor Peter Singer is lucky
that her son is an hypocrite.
Her son is a leading proponent of excising the undesirable —
the imperfect via abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia.
The disabled would fall under there, also, sometimes, the elderly.


Peter Singer's mother has Alzheimer's.


http://www.nationalreview.com/interrogatory/schweizer200510250827.asp


50 posted on 09/12/2006 5:02:57 PM PDT by VOA
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