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Taliban Gets Bury Lucky [Contracting funerals in world of PC]
NYPost/Conservative Voice ^ | Sept 13, 2006

Posted on 09/13/2006 5:19:55 AM PDT by TomGuy

September 13, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - Taliban terror leaders who had gathered for a funeral - and were secretly being watched by an eye-in-the-sky American drone - dodged assassination because U.S. rules of engagement bar attacks in cemeteries, according to a shocking report.

U.S. intelligence officers in Afghanistan are still fuming about the recent lost opportunity for an easy kill of Taliban honchos packed in tight formation for the burial, NBC News reported.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: compassion; gentler; justlikeclinton; predatordrone; rulesofengagement; sensitivewar; taliban; terrorism; terrorists; waronterror; wot
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Taliban Extremist Targets Funeral; Afghan, Coalition Forces ...
The Conservative Voice, NC - Sep 11, 2006
... "The Taliban have dishonored the sanctity of a Muslim funeral," said Army Lt. Col. Paul Fitzpatrick, Combined Joint Task Force 76 spokesman. ...
1 posted on 09/13/2006 5:19:56 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

INSANITY!!!!!


2 posted on 09/13/2006 5:21:46 AM PDT by MonroeDNA (Crist!!! Next Governor of Florida!)
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To: TomGuy

Q: How do you win a PC war? A: You don't.


3 posted on 09/13/2006 5:22:52 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: TomGuy
Saw this on Fox & Friends.

REALLY p***ed me off ;(

What kind of war are we fighting???

Don't kill the enemy, it might offend them!

We ain't gonna win at this rate!

4 posted on 09/13/2006 5:23:09 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ('... we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back' - Abu Ghraib Prisoner)
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To: TomGuy

Geez how much more convenient can it get? They were already in the cemetery!


5 posted on 09/13/2006 5:23:21 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: MonroeDNA

I think this was implemented during the Clinton administration so that the Marxists attending the Wellstone funeral were protected.

One Hellfire back then and this country would have been so much better off.


6 posted on 09/13/2006 5:23:48 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("For seven million extra, we could have avoided a billion dollar WOT.")
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To: TomGuy

This is so disgusting. The Talibandits wouldn't think twice about killing a huge group of US forces gathered together like that at a funeral or prayer service. PC IS KILLING US! It is total insanity. Napolean said, "If your object is to take Vienna, then take Vienna.".........


7 posted on 09/13/2006 5:24:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: MonroeDNA
It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
8 posted on 09/13/2006 5:24:16 AM PDT by Perdogg (If you stay home in November, you will elect Pelosi speaker)
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To: TomGuy

This will be a key scene in the movie commemorating the path to the next terrorist attack.


9 posted on 09/13/2006 5:24:16 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: dc-zoo

Actually this is a good opportunity because it allows the Taliban to be more open.

We will get them next time.


10 posted on 09/13/2006 5:25:01 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("For seven million extra, we could have avoided a billion dollar WOT.")
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To: TomGuy

Who was at the funeral??? Mullah Omar?


11 posted on 09/13/2006 5:25:43 AM PDT by Perdogg (If you stay home in November, you will elect Pelosi speaker)
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To: TomGuy

Interesting. first we advertise "the trail of bin laden is cold", now we come out and say "we don't attack in certain situations.

am I the only one who reads a "Setup" in these items?


12 posted on 09/13/2006 5:28:28 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: TomGuy
We should be outraged!

Rules of engagement work both ways.

The cemetery would have been a perfect place to cremate these animals. Screw the rules of engagement.

sw

13 posted on 09/13/2006 5:29:21 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Free the Border Patrol)
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To: dc-zoo
Bears repeating...

Q: How do you win a PC war?

A: You don't.

The path to 911 just gave us a clue to how insane we have become.
The insanity continues.

Both the Taliban and killers in Iraq have attacked and ambushed our troops in cemetaries.
Some say the fact that we don't makes us "better" than they are.
To me, it just makes us deader.

14 posted on 09/13/2006 5:30:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: camle

The funeral has to end sometime. Just strike after the funeral if you must avoid hitting the funeral.


15 posted on 09/13/2006 5:31:36 AM PDT by Perdogg (If you stay home in November, you will elect Pelosi speaker)
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To: Perdogg
So why didn't THEY think of that?

sw

16 posted on 09/13/2006 5:33:19 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Free the Border Patrol)
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To: TomGuy

What I do not understand is that we have this rule that does not allow us to attack the Taliban at a cemetary.

OK. Fine.

Are they still in the cemetary or did these people leave?

Didn't we blow up their vehicles after they left? Didn't we station troops to intercept them as they left the cemetary?

I agree it is a stupid rule, but c'mon, how about a little military strategy here!


17 posted on 09/13/2006 5:33:32 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Mo1

Check this out!


18 posted on 09/13/2006 5:34:22 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The right wants victory, the left wants surrender. It's that simple.)
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To: Perdogg

What would we have done if Bin Laden was in that crowd? Waited. We were going to send them all to their own funeral anyway. This is nuts! Stupid too..


19 posted on 09/13/2006 5:34:35 AM PDT by Wright Wing
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To: Erik Latranyi
That's why I am beginning to the story might be fishy.
20 posted on 09/13/2006 5:35:17 AM PDT by Perdogg (If you stay home in November, you will elect Pelosi speaker)
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To: Red Badger
Like my tagline says, we need only one real man to risk his career by doing what needs to be done. At worst, he can stir up a public outcry over this BS and get another career as a talk show host like Ollie North.

Government employees (Valarie Plame/Joe Wilson/Alger Hiss) can politic with impunity and get away with anything as long as they advance the agenda of the left. I'm not asking any bureaucrat on our side to politic-- just to risk their career to do what's right.

21 posted on 09/13/2006 5:37:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: TomGuy

This reminds me of when Clinton wouldn't fight during Ramadam because it is a Muslim Holy Month.


22 posted on 09/13/2006 5:38:41 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Publius6961

The BIG question is: Why after "conservatives" have been in control for 6 years, are we still fighting a PC war?


23 posted on 09/13/2006 5:40:07 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: Vigilanteman

" we need only one real man to risk his career by doing what needs to be done"


My exact reaction when I heard this story on FoxNews. Damn the PC and full-speed ahead.


24 posted on 09/13/2006 5:42:28 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: TomGuy

I suspect this story is misreported at best. More likely it's complete bunk.


25 posted on 09/13/2006 5:43:01 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: David Isaac
I think we need to take this story with a grain of salt. The timing is very suspicious.
26 posted on 09/13/2006 5:44:03 AM PDT by Perdogg (If you stay home in November, you will elect Pelosi speaker)
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To: spectre

One stop shopping imho


27 posted on 09/13/2006 5:46:11 AM PDT by xp38
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To: TomGuy
This is the kind of cra$ you get when you let a weak-kneed, PC-politician decide the rules of war...and this IS war. When are these idiots going to learn that?
28 posted on 09/13/2006 5:48:09 AM PDT by econjack
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To: TomGuy

Hey Tomguy, stuff like this is what separates us from barbarians....we have plenty of opportunities to kill them away from a cemetery.

Flame suit on.


29 posted on 09/13/2006 5:49:01 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Perdogg

It was reported on Fox and Friends, and that means it's true. I'm sure they fact-checked the story. (putting on flame suit)


30 posted on 09/13/2006 5:50:27 AM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: TomGuy

They don't respect our religious observances, we shouldn't respect theirs during wartime.

The level of compassion exercised by the US Military should be limited to letting the enemy bury their dead before you kill them. One less body to bury.


31 posted on 09/13/2006 5:53:16 AM PDT by mjustice
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To: Perdogg

let him know that you have no idea where he is, let him go out in public with confidence - right into your sights.


32 posted on 09/13/2006 5:53:35 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: mainepatsfan
em>This will be a key scene in the movie commemorating the path to the next terrorist attack.

Couric will use it first. She and CBS News will use it as proof positive Lara Logan got it right in her 5 September "exclusive": Among A Resurgent Taliban

No comparison will be made concerning how the Taliban does murder or treats funeral services: Bombing At Afghan Governor's Funeral

A suicide attacker on Monday detonated a bomb in eastern Afghanistan where hundreds, including Cabinet ministers, gathered for the funeral of a provincial governor who died in a suicide blast the previous day, police and witnesses said. At least five people were killed and 30 wounded.


33 posted on 09/13/2006 5:54:09 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: bigjoesaddle
I am not saying that all elements are false, but you have to remember that the Penatgon, like the CIA, is not all GOPers.
34 posted on 09/13/2006 5:56:38 AM PDT by Perdogg (If you stay home in November, you will elect Pelosi speaker)
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To: TomGuy
WTH?

I say old chap, it wouldn't be sporting, killing the enemy while he's in formation.

35 posted on 09/13/2006 6:00:09 AM PDT by csvset
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To: TomGuy

This is the kind of crap that gives them hope. It enforces their idea we are not committed to winning this struggle.


36 posted on 09/13/2006 6:05:34 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: A.Hun
stuff like this is what separates us from barbarians

The Romans used to say similar things. There is no Roman Empire any more. Who defeated them? Barbarians.

We can stay so aloof of reality that it can destroy us.
37 posted on 09/13/2006 6:06:25 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Perdogg

Any chance that a number of these Talis were followed after this funeral? Do we have a line on a hiding place because of not hitting the fire button? Can more Taliban be killed because of holding off on this opportunity?

All questions I'd like answered before I get overly upset about it.

If they come back no, THEN I'll be pissed.


38 posted on 09/13/2006 6:06:43 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: Perdogg; EQAndyBuzz

LOL.

It's pretty late in the game (2nd half of 2nd term) to be suggesting that Bush and Rumsfeld have had no ability to modify the RoE to their satisfaction.


39 posted on 09/13/2006 6:10:50 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Perdogg
You are so right...we are at war, and part of war strategery should be misleading info, or outright lies to confound the enemy. We would hope that this is the case here. We would further hope that someone in our government has some balls, no P.C. and is doing a job to kill the enemy.

Maybe next time the talbos will be confident that we will not strike a cemetary, more, and higher level people will congregate there and it will become their permanent home due to a well placed hellfire missile.

We can hope...(can't we?)

40 posted on 09/13/2006 6:16:33 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (liberalism, abortions and islam are terminal)
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To: David Isaac
Why after "conservatives" have been in control for 6 years, are we still fighting a PC war?

Because conservatives are only 40% of the government and are hanging on by their fingernails with 10% of "moderates" who only kinda want to fight a war as long as nobody gets upset and who would bolt in a nanosecond if we do anything harsh.
41 posted on 09/13/2006 6:18:44 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: TomGuy

How can you offend them. Take them out and you send them to 72 virgins.


42 posted on 09/13/2006 6:26:12 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: A.Hun
Hey Tomguy, stuff like this is what separates us from barbarians....

I don't want to be separated from their barbarians except in their deaths by any expedient means.
You can waste time on being separate, WETF that means, from our barbarians when they get that job done.
43 posted on 09/13/2006 6:30:29 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: TomGuy; All
This is not PC but standard Judeo-Christian ethics built upon those of the ancient Greeks. WE have never acted like these animals in any of our wars. That has not stopped us from annihilating our enemies either.

Achilles defiling the body of Hector and refusing funeral rights was an aberration eventually righted by his pity of Priam who came into his camp and plead for his son.
45 posted on 09/13/2006 6:35:48 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: TomGuy

Western Civilization's tombstone is going to read, "Killed by Political Correctness."


46 posted on 09/13/2006 6:35:57 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Perdogg

WAving the red flag in front of bulls is not a commentary on the thoughtfulness of bulls either.


47 posted on 09/13/2006 6:37:24 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I think this was implemented during the Clinton administration so that the Marxists attending the Wellstone funeral were protected.

One Hellfire back then and this country would have been so much better off.

Sorry Andy...Wellstone died in 2002, not during the Clinton administration.

48 posted on 09/13/2006 6:43:54 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: Perdogg; Erik Latranyi; camle; EQAndyBuzz
The notion that we let them go for reasons of strategy/disinformation/setup is one of the goofiest things that I've heard around here in a long time.

Your contention that we had Adolf and all his lieutenants in our sights at a funeral, is that we should have held our fire and let them all walk away? to get them another day?

Goofy. Period.

Taliban terror leaders who had gathered for a funeral

We could have set them back by months or YEARS! These are the same people who are killing our military service members over there, PULL THE TRIGGER ALREADY!

as the Taliban splintered into tiny groups - too small to effectively target with the drone

Strategy is decapitating the enemy, not cutting off its tail and hoping we get a shot at its head again "someday".

49 posted on 09/13/2006 6:44:13 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ('... we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back' - Abu Ghraib Prisoner)
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To: TomGuy

Is this John Kerry's "more sensiteive" war, or just LBJ and McNamara in Vietnam?

These rules of engagement are totally insane. Here was a gathering of most of the leading Taliban figures and we can't bomb them? Who made these rules?

I know we're the more civilized people -- which is wy we don't torture -- but rules like these are rules that completely prevent victory.

As General CDouglas MacArthur once said, "The purpose of war is victory, not the prolongation of endless hostilities."

Now let's go kill people and break things.


50 posted on 09/13/2006 6:45:53 AM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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