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Raising the Cigarette Tax is Bad Policy
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| September 11, 2006
| Matt Schumsky
Posted on 09/13/2006 9:26:29 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
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The great statesman Winston Churchill once said "If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law."
Sadly, the proponents of Prop 86 have not only lost all respect for the law, but they have lost all respect for Californians and the concept of individual rights and limited government. Please vote "NO" on Prop 86 on November 7 in California.
To: DogByte6RER
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posted on
09/13/2006 9:28:26 AM PDT
by
DogByte6RER
("Loose lips sink ships")
To: DogByte6RER; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; ...
Boy oh boy! California lawmakers, like Maine, are completely nuts!
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posted on
09/13/2006 9:29:54 AM PDT
by
SheLion
("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
To: DogByte6RER
Speaking of Winston, a carton of Winstons should be $1. The kids would cease smoking as a status symbol and I could resume to put burn holes in the carpet and tablecloth like the old days.
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posted on
09/13/2006 9:31:22 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
To: DogByte6RER
According to Californias non-partisan Legislative Analyst, the total revenue from the Tobacco Tax Act of 2006 could be up to $2.1 billion. Oh right. I wonder how much dough we would rake in if we made the tax $100 a pack? Based on the Leg Analyst's reasoning it would be about $81 billion.
If people think drug smuggling is a problem, wait until this passes. Anyone and everyone will be returning to California with trunkloads of cigarettes either for resale, or their own use.
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posted on
09/13/2006 9:33:22 AM PDT
by
ElkGroveDan
(The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a drowning man needs an anvil.)
To: DogByte6RER
.."
destroy respect for law."& increase organized crime income, in this case muslim terror cells, it's a speciality of the breed.
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posted on
09/13/2006 9:33:30 AM PDT
by
norraad
("What light!">Blues Brothers)
To: DogByte6RER
For example, black marketers could drive to a nearby state such as Nevada, where the cigarette tax is only 80 cents, buy 100 packs and return to California for a quick profit. Imagine a profit of $2.67 on each pack, $26.70 for each carton and $2,670 for a truck of 100 cartons.
LOL!
They're doing that now. The blackmarket will grow even bigger!
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posted on
09/13/2006 9:42:01 AM PDT
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: norraad
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posted on
09/13/2006 9:42:12 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: DogByte6RER
The power to tax is the power to destroy.
All those who urge legalizing "drugs" should take note.
Some say "legalize it and tax the hell out of it". That is becoming the case with beer and cigs. Some taxes are hidden inside of zero tolerance policies by which people get DWI charges over 3 beers or even Public Intoxication charges over 2 beers at a hotel bar. It's all about revenue.
These "drugs" that people complain about (like pot) can be grown at home. Would there seed taxes and licenses to produce for personal use?
Would the DEA just move under the ATF? (You know, those guys that raided Waco and that crack the knuckles of the mob?)
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posted on
09/13/2006 9:42:45 AM PDT
by
weegee
(Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
Please dont give Mayor Bloomberg anymore ideas.
To: DogByte6RER
But its for the children !
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posted on
09/13/2006 9:52:43 AM PDT
by
dartuser
("Until they love their children more than they hate us, there will be no peace" Golda Meir)
To: dartuser
Hey, that's my line. I say this all the time when someone starts preaching to me about smoking.
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posted on
09/13/2006 10:07:13 AM PDT
by
JJR RNCH
(Your mother doesn't work here!! Clean up after YOURSELF.)
To: SheLion
To: SheLion
What those dolts in CA conveniently forget is that in order to get this windfall they have to encourage kids to start smoking. What a bunch of idiots!
To: DogByte6RER; SheLion
But under the current proposition, the $840 million that should go to public education will instead go to the hospitals that are aggressively campaigning for the new tax.Wow, sound like SRO at the trough, you can almost hear the grunting.
How much more do these ticks think they can suck out of smokers?
To: DogByte6RER; ancient_geezer; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; PhilWill; kevkrom; ...
The ballot measure to increase taxes by more than 250 percent is called Proposition 86, or the Tobacco Tax Act.
Currently there is a bill before Congress
The Fair Tax Act(H.R.25/S.25) that would shift the tax burden from income to consumption by abolishing all federal income taxes. Any state choosing to conform to The Fair Tax will be able to raise the same amount of sales tax with a lower tax rate
Fair Tax FAQ #25 due to a much larger tax base. A consumption tax is more stable than an income tax as people still make purchases during unemployment.
What is not explained in the proponents advertisements is that they get to decide how to spend the money.
The Fair Tax will enable the people to have much more power deciding how much and when they will be taxed based on when and how much they purchase.
Another likely result of the passage of the Tobacco Tax Act would be the increased smuggling and black market sales.
The black market will be drastically reduced with The Fair Tax. The Fair Tax abolishes business to business taxes. These embedded value added taxes(VATS)are applied at each stage of production and passed onto the consumer in the form of higher prices. Abolishing the VATS will force companies to pass on the cost savings due to competition by lowering the cost of products including cigarettes making the black market less appealing.
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posted on
09/13/2006 2:35:21 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
To: ElkGroveDan
I, for one, am glad my husband is a truck driver. He can get our cigarettes in another state for alot less. There will be a ton of black market cigs out there. If you look real close at the bill, you will find that with that tax, we smokers will be paying for additional law inforcement to tackle the smuggling. Makes sense to me! NOT.
To: Madame Dufarge; DogByte6RER
How much more do these ticks think they can suck out of smokers?Here is a check to Maine from a smoker:
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posted on
09/14/2006 3:25:05 AM PDT
by
SheLion
("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
To: DogByte6RER
And why oh why would they want for people to stop smoking after all the money begins to pour in?.....imagine all of the lost revenue!
Taxing something that the government says it wants for people to do less of and then relying on that money is stupid (less smoking would bring in less money to big government so stopping smoking is NOT going to be a goal of theirs- no matter how much they say that it is) , but what do you expect from people whose MO is social engineering via taxes.
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posted on
09/14/2006 6:29:00 AM PDT
by
socialismisinsidious
( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
To: DogByte6RER
Dang, I'll bet even criminal smugglers are contributing to that referendum from jail. We haven't seen a bonanza like this in California since the Gold Rush of 1849.
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