Winning battles doesn't mean we're winning the war

The Oregonian ^ | September 13, 2006 | editors

[crazyhorse691]

Nice sounding platitudes leading to the much repeated refrain that social conditions are the reason for ....everything; Its all our fault, you see. The article didn't come right out and say that, but, the smell and the thorns are there.

[MNJohnnie]

Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?

[weegee]

Whining editorials don't mean a thing.

[thoughtomator]

If we are to rise above endless conflict, the Muslim world must see America as something other than the Great Satan

I truly believe that we need to replace Allah as their god. When they're all praying for the mighty USAF to stay his divine wrath, we'll have won the war.

[dfwgator]

the Muslim world must see America as something other than the Great Satan

That will only happen if America becomes a Muslim state.

[Crucis Country]

You left out the BARF alert on the headline.

[dfwgator]

Nice sounding platitudes leading to the much repeated refrain that social conditions are the reason for ....everything

Gee, I guess that explains why the majority of 911 hijackers came from wealthy Saudi families.

[weegee]

Open their eyes that Mohammed was a warlord and a deceiver.

If they choose to return to the Judeo-Christian Bible (as Jews or Christians) so be it. Or they could become Scientologists, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists... etc. etc. Just not Nazis.

Where does the religion of Islam end and the political system of Islam begin?

[weegee]

OBL was a billionaire. It's NOT about the money. It is about exploiting cultural hatreds.

[Physicist]

There is an Iraqi "front" in the war on terror all right. We created it.

We did. And it's a damn good one.

[pissant]

We are winning the war. Against islamic jihadis and against the MSM. And they can't stand it.

[weegee]

I didn't post or ping, this one. I just gave a succinct synopsis as satirical headline.

[jazusamo]

Is it surprising that The Oregonian takes the position of blame America first? Not in the least, Portland is the liberal bastion of Oregon.

[weegee]

"We" created the Iraqi front in 1991. The war was put on hold but Saddam violated the peace agreements by continuing to acquire "forbidden" weapons (not forbidden to ALL nations, just to a "convicted felon out on parole"). Saddam re-ignited the war. He was offered the opportunity to step down and did not. He made his case on SeeBS interviewed by Dan Ratherbiased.

[Pirate21]

Where does the religion of Islam end and the political system of Islam begin?

There is no difference in the two.

[Gritty]

But, unless we want to fight a full-scale war endlessly, we must find ways to engage Muslim governments and societies more fully and more productively.

I wish us luck. We'll need lots of it. Every single other approach which has been tried for 1400 years has ultimately failed.

Perhaps this is because what is going on here is much more than simply a lack of Muslim "trust" or "respect"?

[WilliamofCarmichael]

President Bush reminded Americans in his sobering television address that we do have enemies. They are aggressive, committed people who hate the United States and are deadly in the pursuit of that hatred.

Then the President turned to the threat from other countries. . .

we will not win this war on the battlefield . . . .

See the post-war writings of the North Vietnamese Communists thanking the "anti-war" movement and praising the American media as their "most valuable guerrilla." Win all the battles, lose the war.

But the lens through which many in the Muslim world see us shows them war, destruction -- and, inexcusably, sometimes rape and murder -- at our hands.

See the "we created a monster, all U.S. military are war criminals" Senate foreign relations subcommittee testimony by John Kerry (1972) representing the view through the Communists' lens.

U.S. troops win all the battles -- U.S. enemies within surrender the war. Go figure.

I have. All 200-year-old republics are entitled to at least one patriot-dictator. I've been looking since at least 1972.

[Der_Hirnfänger]

So glad I stopped subscribing to the whOregonian.

[Digger]

They will listen for a 1 sec. That's before the bomb hits them. You better believe that Allah & 72 virgins get a thumbs down over that bomb in that last 1 second.

[newgeezer]

If we are to rise above endless conflict, the Muslim world must see America as something other than the Great Satan.

Whatta crock of steaming shiite!

Instead, how about we convince the entire world that Islam is pure evil? Mmm-kay?