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Analysis: Pope's `jihad' remarks a sign
AP via Yahoo ^ | September 15, 2006 | Brian Murphy

Posted on 09/15/2006 2:33:34 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican

Pope Benedict XVI's comments on religious radicalism are another sign of his intention to bring his voice into one of the world's most critical showdowns: Islam's internal struggles between moderates and extremists.

The remarks — tucked into an address at a German university where he formerly taught theology — were interpreted by many experts in interfaith relations as a signal that the Vatican is staking a new and more demanding stance for its dealings with the Muslim world.

Benedict, they say, appears to increasingly view the West's confrontation with radical Islam as a fateful moment in history that demands the Vatican's moral authority — just as his predecessor, John Paul II, reshaped the dimensions of the papacy by openly taking sides in the Cold War.

The risk for the Vatican is whether it will be perceived in the Muslim world as part of a broader Western cultural and political campaign against Islam.

"We have seen a hard line from this pope," said Ali El-Samman, president of the interfaith committee for Egypt's High Islamic Council. "It's a disappointment for many Muslims. But just because we are disappointed in a pope doesn't mean we are against all Christians."

The Vatican said Benedict did not intend the remarks to be offensive and sought to draw attention to the incompatibility of faith and violence.

The pope quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th-century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and a Persian scholar on the truths of Christianity and Islam.

"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

Benedict, who is supposed to visit Turkey this fall in his first trip to a Muslim nation, did not explicitly agree with the words nor did he repudiate them.

In the backlash, some of the more subtle — yet potentially far-reaching — references have been overshadowed.

The speech suggested deep dismay over the current conditions of Christians in the Middle East and the rest of the Muslim world, said John Voll, director of the Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University in Washington.

"This reflects the intention of Pope Benedict to distinguish himself from his predecessor on his approach to interfaith dialogue," said Voll. "And by this, it means more reciprocity."

Voll said the pope may increasingly instruct Vatican envoys to stress issues of forced conversions of Christians and limits on Christian rights and worship.

"It's the next step after John Paul began opening doors" with historic pilgrimages to Muslim nations, including a visit to a Syrian mosque in 2001, Voll said.

As John Paul's chief watchdog on Roman Catholic doctrine, Benedict — then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger — had little role in shaping the Vatican's contact with Islam and other faiths.

Some experts say Benedict's theological scholarship gives him an affinity for Orthodox churches and Judaism because of many shared traditions and holy texts, but leaves him less equipped to deal with Islam at a time when suspicions dominate relations between the West and Muslim world.

The speech, some say, shows the pontiff intends to carry on with his strong defense of the values of the Christian West rather than compromise for the sake of building bonds with Islam.

"They went to the speech expecting to meet Pope Benedict, but instead they met Professor Ratzinger," said the Rev. Khalil Samir, a Vatican envoy for interfaith links in Lebanon.

In July 2005, about two months after assuming the papacy, Benedict was asked if he considered Islam a religion of peace. He said: "Certainly there are elements that favor peace. It also has other elements."

The Rev. Robert Taft, a specialist in Islamic affairs at Rome's Pontifical Oriental Institute, said it was unlikely the pope miscalculated how some Muslims would receive his speech.

"The message he is sending is very, very clear," Taft said. "Violence in the name of faith is never acceptable in any religion and that (the pope) considers it his duty to challenge Islam and anyone else on this."


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To: The Blitherer

I feel the same way. I liked Pope John as well.


41 posted on 09/15/2006 3:06:03 PM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

God bless Pope Benedict here. This Southern Baptist admires his forthright words.

In the battle for the souls of man, Islam is a competitor, not a potential partner. Though we should try to live at peace with everyone, any "understanding" of Islam that includes an acknowledgement of it as true and equal is wrong. In the end, they are irreconciliable.


42 posted on 09/15/2006 3:06:30 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: onyx
I'm not a religious sort, but I admired John Paul greatly, and as I understand it, this Pope was one of his closest advisor's and mentors.

He has now engaged his pulpit with the WOT.

This is good news. This can can only mean that a substantial force has been brought into the fight.

43 posted on 09/15/2006 3:06:36 PM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the mess...so go pound sand:-))
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To: stultorum

The title of his address is "Faith and Reason". He invites reasonable Muslims to dialogue. Instead, all the hotheads riot in the streets. I guess the reasonable are like the moderates. They are figments of our imaginations.


44 posted on 09/15/2006 3:07:52 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: stm


Absolutely.


45 posted on 09/15/2006 3:08:19 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Cold Heat

Oh, I know this article is not being critical of the Pope. I am just ranting and raving because I am tired of all these Muslims being offended by cartoons and anything else civil minded people might say that they find offensive. If they don't like what is said, THEN STOP KILLING AND BEHEADING IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.


46 posted on 09/15/2006 3:08:37 PM PDT by rep-always
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

My tagline says it all....


47 posted on 09/15/2006 3:15:34 PM PDT by PAMadMax (Islam is the enemy of all mankind...AlJazeera is its PR Firm)
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To: rep-always
They are on the inside looking out. Nothing penetrates their built in protections. Any critism is a insult and the penalty is death of the sayer, the sayers family and anyone else in support.

The Popes words were meant to be heard by them, and the reaction is typical and expected.

Do this a few hundred times per year, for a couple decades or more, and something is going to give.

Give it time....

It is all we can do, except kill them.

We once thought the commies were unbeatable.....and could never give up power and control.

48 posted on 09/15/2006 3:16:57 PM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the mess...so go pound sand:-))
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

How long before Catholic churches start blowing up?


49 posted on 09/15/2006 3:17:12 PM PDT by fullchroma
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To: Cold Heat


FR mail.


50 posted on 09/15/2006 3:17:14 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Way to go Benney! We haven't had a good Crusade in centuries.


51 posted on 09/15/2006 3:17:44 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: rep-always
If they don't like what is said, THEN STOP KILLING AND BEHEADING IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.

But their Holee book demands it!

52 posted on 09/15/2006 3:20:28 PM PDT by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

God bless Pope Benedict. As the leader of one the the pillars of Western society, he knows that he cannot avoid confrontation as the war against Judeo-Christianity values have been declared long time ago.


53 posted on 09/15/2006 3:21:07 PM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: The Blitherer
While I am not a Catholic and I have some doctrinal problems with the Catholic church, I must say, I really like this Pope. I hope he stands his ground.

They don't call him "The Enforcer" for nothing.

54 posted on 09/15/2006 3:23:29 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: Gingersnap
One reason why the Vatican opposed the invasion of Iraq. They appreciate that the Middle East is full of fanaticism and that it will vent itself by turning against native Christians.
55 posted on 09/15/2006 3:25:34 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: The Blitherer
No, see, you're completely missing the point. They aren't against all Christians. They're just against the ones they can't force to live in cowering, poverty-ridden dhimmitude.

You have a point there.

It is in the same category of Muslims being opposed to killing innocent people. Of course the Infidels who are an affront to God (Allah) cannot be considered innocent people. - tom

56 posted on 09/15/2006 3:26:29 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
just as his predecessor, John Paul II, reshaped the dimensions of the papacy by openly taking sides in the Cold War.

Guess he won't be Kissing the Koran like John Paul II
57 posted on 09/15/2006 3:26:53 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: The Blitherer

AMEN!!!! brother.


58 posted on 09/15/2006 3:30:09 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( (3rd Armored Division - Spearhead))
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To: A CA Guy

"When or if the Pope gets killed, you are going to see 1.1 pissed off Catholics around the world."

I think most of my 600 million Protestant bretheren will be right there with you.

except the American Anglicans (just kidding!)


59 posted on 09/15/2006 3:37:31 PM PDT by Stand W (Confusion to our enemies)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Let's Roll!!!
60 posted on 09/15/2006 3:40:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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