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Analysis: Pope's `jihad' remarks a sign
AP via Yahoo ^ | September 15, 2006 | Brian Murphy

Posted on 09/15/2006 2:33:34 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican

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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

"to bring his voice into one of the world's most critical showdowns: Islam's internal struggles between moderates and extremists."

Can you please tell me where this internal struggle is going on, because I have not seen it?

I have seen every form of Muslim, from so-called moderate to the most radical, repeat the exact same morally relative excuses for every from of Muslim terrorism, Muslim xenophobia, Muslim violence, Muslim religious intolerance across the world.

If there are any real moderates they are cowed into silence in even the most "moderate" Muslim society.

When the Muslims in every Muslim society are out in the streets protesting againt Muslim terrorism in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Kashmir, the Philippines and every where else, then maybe we can say there Muslim moderates. They do not even march against terrorism here, in the USA where they have so much freedom.


61 posted on 09/15/2006 3:45:35 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Night Hides Not

My favorite....GODS' Rottweiler! Go Pope!!!!


62 posted on 09/15/2006 3:59:12 PM PDT by I am bigjohn
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To: Stand W

I'd really like to think it wouldn't have to take the assasination of a 79-year-old pope to wake the world up to Islam's true intentions.

Still, I'm probably being naive.

My gut tells me Benedict XVI might be on his way to martyrdom - the REAL kind of Martyrdom - where one ultimately pays for one's life for the truth of the gospel.

Not the kind brought about by running into a crowded shopping center with an IED strapped to your chest.


63 posted on 09/15/2006 4:06:12 PM PDT by Preston Manning (Come Mista Tallyban Tally me Banana. Daylight come an' me blow up ya' home.)
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To: oyez

What is a "legal diverse"? Is that one of those no-fault divorces?


64 posted on 09/15/2006 4:08:19 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Approximately one year after his election, John Paul II spoke out against Communism.
in June of 1979, ... The pope spoke of Poland's Christian roots and the transience of the communist regime. His words were a direct challenge to the communist leaders that ruled Poland and surrounding countries with an iron fist that suppressed religion and freedom of speech.

65 posted on 09/15/2006 4:27:22 PM PDT by syriacus (Dems on the DEEP SIX COMMISSION have attempted to cover up Clinton administration's 911 mistakes.)
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To: rep-always
It is amazing how anyone can make fun and ridicule Christians and no one is OFFENDED. Heavens forbid anyone says anything about Muslims. It is sickening and I AM SICK OF IT.

And as long as the muslims sense that the west is afraid to speak out they are emboldened

That is why Bush can not back down in his rhetoric

The Pope shouldn't either --we will see if he does
66 posted on 09/15/2006 4:38:16 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"The Rev. Robert Taft, a specialist in Islamic affairs at Rome's Pontifical Oriental Institute, said it was unlikely the pope miscalculated how some Muslims would receive his speech. "

Yep.

67 posted on 09/15/2006 4:39:16 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles (A)
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To: Wuli
They do not even march against terrorism here, in the USA where they have so much freedom.

Well mostly but since they usually all live in enclaves I guess a lot are afraid of the hard core in their midst

I said I GUESS .Wish there was someway to know
68 posted on 09/15/2006 4:41:59 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

Let's see it was Reagan /Pope John Paul II against the commies

Maybe Bush/the new Pope against the muslims


69 posted on 09/15/2006 4:44:20 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: fullchroma

I'm not so sure they'd be in a hurry to do that in the West, not yet anyway. They do remember the Crusades and subsequent battles against the Catholics, most of which they lost, which further explains their ongoing infantile behavior driven by shame, loss of face and general backwardness combined with self hate. But hey, we all know that, huh?


70 posted on 09/15/2006 4:47:13 PM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: ConservativeDude
Benedict, who is supposed to visit Turkey this fall in his first trip to a Muslim nation

Isn't Mehmet Ali Agca still running around free somewhere in Turkey?

71 posted on 09/15/2006 4:48:05 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: rep-always
"It is amazing how anyone can make fun and ridicule Christians and no one is OFFENDED. Heavens forbid anyone says anything about Muslims. It is sickening and I AM SICK OF IT."

Me too. If no one can be critical of Islam without causing riots in the streets that is suppression of free speech. Muslims are going to have to get used to Islam being criticized and held up to scrutiny. Every other religion gets the same critical treatment. Why not Islam? Down with Muslim privilege!

72 posted on 09/15/2006 4:54:54 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles (A)
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To: uncbob

I totally agree.


73 posted on 09/15/2006 5:19:21 PM PDT by rep-always
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

Amen. I for one will never back down from the argument that until they prove me different this religion is evil. And I don't care what they think. I am tired and will not shut my mouth again.
As far as I am concerned it is as President Bush said, If you harbor a terrorist you are as much to blame as being the actual terrorist. So I can also say, if you are a Muslim believer and you stand by silent watching other believers committing the atrocities that they commit than you are no better than they are.


74 posted on 09/15/2006 5:25:30 PM PDT by rep-always
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To: rep-always
Being offended by offensive and disrespectful cartoons whose only purpose is the intention to offend, is one thing. I am and have been offended by offenisve cartoons aimed at my own faith.

Being angry at constructive criticism, or honest discussions about their religion which point out it's weakness and propensity to violence is quite another.

75 posted on 09/15/2006 5:44:20 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: john drake

Hope you're right. And we sure do know all too well "their ongoing infantile behavior driven by shame, loss of face and general backwardness combined with self hate." Well put, for starters.


76 posted on 09/15/2006 6:51:36 PM PDT by fullchroma
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To: Wuli

That's mostly the writer's interpretation of the situation. I think are there, but I think they are few and far between, and their voice ineffectual, drowned out by the fanatics. I guess if the Pope, or our political leaders, believe there are viable moderates in the Muslim world, it might be in the hope that there is a last-ditch effort to avoid what has to be considered a potentetially horrific conflict.

I am not a Catholic, but I keep Pope Benedict in my prayers, that God will help him, guide him and give him the strenghth he needs to bear the great burden that has been put on his shoulders.


77 posted on 09/15/2006 8:32:33 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The moving finger writes and, having writ, moves on......)
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To: CBart95

"just as his predecessor, John Paul II, reshaped the dimensions of the papacy by openly taking sides in the Cold War. "

I think you miss read this line. He is refereing to John Paul and his taking up the fight for Polish freedom from the commies
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78 posted on 09/17/2006 6:58:34 AM PDT by bamabound
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It will come as a huge surprise that many people everywhere are not aware of nor care about what ever the Pope chooses to busy himself with at the moment.
It is irrelelevant.


79 posted on 09/17/2006 7:34:05 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: Gingersnap
There is no reason for the Vatican to "build bonds" with Islam. I'm guessing the pontiff knows a little bit more about the consequences of Islamic ambition than some secular news analysts.

Appeasement will never work with people who are on a mission from Allah.


80 posted on 09/24/2006 6:53:09 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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