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Attacks threatened over Pope's words (the Vatican threatened)
The Australian ^ | 9/16/2006 | Staff in Dubai

Posted on 09/16/2006 7:31:51 AM PDT by Dark Skies

AN Iraqi armed group has threatened to carry out attacks against Rome and the Vatican in retaliation for Pope Benedict XVI's remarks on Islam, according to a statement posted on the internet today.

"We swear that we will destroy their cross in the heart of Rome ... and that their Vatican will be hit and wept over by the Pope," said Jaish al-Mujahideen (the Mujahideen's Army) in the statement, whose authenticity could not be confirmed.

The statement lashed out at "Zionised Christians and loathsome crusaders" and was accompanied by six films showing attacks against US military targets in Iraq, which it said were "dedicated to the dog of the crusaders (an apparent reference to the Pope) in retaliation for his remarks".

"We will not rest until your thrones and your crosses have been destroyed on your own territory," said the group, which has claimed many attacks against US and government forces in Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...


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"Behead those who say islam is violent!"
1 posted on 09/16/2006 7:31:53 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Get out the big can of RAID.


2 posted on 09/16/2006 7:34:09 AM PDT by mutley
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To: Dark Skies

What concerns me is that the Vatican seems to be capitulating to these goons. They are issuing statements like "The Pope meant no offense."

Ya know what, if the Vatican doesn't stand it's ground they're going to come out of this the way they did after WWII when they didn't take a STRONG stand against the Holocaust. They need to grow a backbone and say, "Yeah, Islam IS evil and violent, and you morons are just proving the point!"

But I'm not gonna hold my breath.


3 posted on 09/16/2006 7:37:17 AM PDT by Syco
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To: Dark Skies
"Behead those who say islam is violent!"

This sums it it up!

4 posted on 09/16/2006 7:37:25 AM PDT by A. Pole (GBW: "We're going to help build a virtual border, this border is changing and it needs to change")
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To: NYer; Salvation; Coleus

Prayers up for the Holy Father and Rome. Muzzie really are homicidal maniacs.


5 posted on 09/16/2006 7:37:25 AM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Dark Skies

You have lied that Islam is a violent religion, for this you must die! Your women will wail "Why, why did we think Islam was violent" as we rape and murder them. Your enslaved children will rue the day their infidel parents refused to accept Islam as the one true merciful religion.


6 posted on 09/16/2006 7:38:08 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Dark Skies

7 posted on 09/16/2006 7:39:04 AM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Dark Skies
"We will not rest until your thrones and your crosses have been destroyed on your own territory,"

A direct declaration of war against the Church.

8 posted on 09/16/2006 7:39:10 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Dark Skies

BFD. So what else is new with the muzzies. That's their business--attacks, murders and rapes.


9 posted on 09/16/2006 7:41:17 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Dark Skies
"Behead those who say islam is violent!"

Can there be any lingering doubt that His Holiness spoke the truth?

10 posted on 09/16/2006 7:41:52 AM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised)
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To: mutley

RAID is right. The muslim killers in the ABC movie looked exactly like scurrying roaches in dust and dark alleys. No other animal came to mind - just roaches scurrying from light.


11 posted on 09/16/2006 7:44:23 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Dark Skies
Let's see, a Muslim by the name of Mehmet Ali Ağca tried to murder the last pope. Now they're drawing a bead on this one.

TROP indeed.

12 posted on 09/16/2006 7:45:13 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Dark Skies
these people are too stupid to read the entire text of what the Pope was saying...

It is a "quote" that he read that engendered all this ruckus...

see Michelle Malkin for good coverage:

http://michellemalkin.com/

13 posted on 09/16/2006 7:45:59 AM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Dark Skies
Islam will have signed its death warrant with an attack on the Pope.

I'm no Catholic, but, such an event would strike so close to the essence of Christianity that the Muslims would certainly know what a "Crusade" is, and not mouth the empty word for propagandistic effect.

14 posted on 09/16/2006 7:46:31 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

"A direct declaration of war against the Church."

Doesn't take much to get them excited...LOL

It seems they are either in a frenzy, or collecting virgins.
With nothing in between.


15 posted on 09/16/2006 7:46:37 AM PDT by mutley
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To: Dark Skies
"Behead those who say islam is violent!"

"Behead everyone except us Muslims....

....unless she wants an education... or unless he disagrees with Islam... or unless the innocent child can be used as a human shield... or unless the innocent's death could be used for political propaganda...."

16 posted on 09/16/2006 7:46:52 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: Dark Skies; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...

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If you want on (or off) this Catholic and Pro-Life ping list, let me know!



17 posted on 09/16/2006 7:46:54 AM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: Dark Skies

The Vatican would be about the worst possible place to attack.


18 posted on 09/16/2006 7:47:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Dark Skies
Seems to me the Muslims have just pissed off some 1 billion Catholics.

As I've been saying, the bloodletting this century will make the wars of the 20th century look like Quaker church picnics.

19 posted on 09/16/2006 7:47:19 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Jaded
How dare the Pope insinuate that Islam is violent. . .nothing could be further from the truth about these peace-loving people. We must open our arms and engage them with love and dialogue.

We must release the hurt inner-child that is crying out for compassion. We need to become more sensitive to the needs of Islamic people, embrace them, hold their hands, wipe the tears from out of their eyes. . .just as you would your own child who has scrapped his knee and needs a Mommie to kiss his boo-boo and make it all better.

Wait a minute . . .BAAARRRRFFFFFFFFF. . .there, I feel better now.. .ate some of that bad spinach and had to purge it, quick!

20 posted on 09/16/2006 7:47:50 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: Dark Skies

The Muslims latest complaint:

You'd better not call us violent...or we'll get violent.


21 posted on 09/16/2006 7:49:05 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Dark Skies


22 posted on 09/16/2006 7:49:42 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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To: Dark Skies
>"Attacks threatened over Pope's words (the Vatican threatened) "

Does it have anything to do with the werds of muuuhamhead (Pigs be inseminating her)?

Quran-4:89— Take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and kill them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks.

Sura 9:5 of the “Koranus,” “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”

"Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God." Sura 9:29

"Strike off their heads then, and strike off from them every finger tip." - Sura 8:12

Don't make them mad! They're already commanded to murder allah mankind! Don't make them mad!

There's nothing worse than having an angry satan worshiper saw your head off.
But on the other hand if the slimes are happy maybe they'll use a sharp knife, and be mercifull!

Don't make them mad!


Aap aap ahh dap dap!!!!!
It's a religion of peace
It's a religion of peace



23 posted on 09/16/2006 7:50:35 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (If a monkey bangs away at a typewriter twice a week for ten years it could write an M. Dowd column.)
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To: Syco
Your post proves it doesn't matter. The Vatican took a stronger stand than anyone else during the Holocaust. Even the NYT (back when it was sane) said so immediately after WWII. Perhaps he could have said more, but in his judgment it would have made things worse for many people living under the Nazis. In any case, I can't think of anyone else who said anything.

Of course, the Pope individually is not the one who will feel the worst of Muslim rage -- Christians (even non-Catholic Christians) in Muslim countries are being attacked and having their churches burned.

Would you have him be like Salmon Rushdie, who went into hiding when his book inspired a fatwa against him and who nevertheless got out word that bookstores should display his book prominently, leaving minimum-wage clerks to risk the wrath of offended Muslims?

24 posted on 09/16/2006 7:50:44 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Dark Skies
These Islamist actually sound like they speak in authentic 7th Century language...if it wasn't so deadly it would be funny as hexx! My 7th Century response: "Rise up all in defense of that which we know to be good & in defense of our Judeo/Christian civilization. As what went before, it is time for all true Crusaders to unite and prepare the scythe to smit these godless barbarians into deserv'ed non-existence"
25 posted on 09/16/2006 7:50:49 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Syco
What concerns me is that the Vatican seems to be capitulating to these goons.

Is that not the way of the West now?

"Oh, we are so sorry we drew a cartoon of Mo.

"Oh, we apologize for saying some in the name of Islam are freekin' lunatics"

One thing all of this capitulation is doing is causing these Islamic idiots to become even bolder.

After all, the jihadists now know: Threaten the West with violence, they will back down and we will get our way.

26 posted on 09/16/2006 7:50:51 AM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: Thumper1960

"Islam will have signed its death warrant with an attack on the Pope.
I'm no Catholic, but, such an event would strike so close to the essence of Christianity that the Muslims would certainly know what a "Crusade" is, and not mouth the empty word for propagandistic effect."-
I wish that would be the case, but we let slide so many acts of violence, if there was an attack on the Pope I am sure that the react would be much less severe than it needs to be.


27 posted on 09/16/2006 7:51:42 AM PDT by dimeadozen
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To: technomage

with every apology and capitulation, these bastards get stronger and more bold.


28 posted on 09/16/2006 7:52:26 AM PDT by ground_fog
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To: ground_fog

We are fighting this war with kid gloves while the enemy strikes us with bear fists-in this type of fight-who draws more blood?


29 posted on 09/16/2006 7:53:35 AM PDT by ground_fog
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To: Junior
Seems to me the Muslims have just pissed off some 1 billion Catholics.

That figure is roughly correct.

Source

Elsewhere...


30 posted on 09/16/2006 7:53:54 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: rawcatslyentist

"Aap aap ahh dap dap!!!!!
It's a religion of peace
It's a religion of peace"

The comparison to "Mars Attacks" is so right on. Never thought about that before.

I'ts beautiful!!!


31 posted on 09/16/2006 7:55:31 AM PDT by mutley
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To: Sue Perkick

"Europe you will pay. Fantastic 4 are on their way!!!"

Is that supposed to mean something or has someone been photoshopping??


32 posted on 09/16/2006 7:55:42 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Thumper1960

"Islam will have signed its death warrant with an attack on the Pope."

I assure you that many mosques will be burned and the streets will run red with the blood of Muslims across the world if they dare do anything to the pope. The Christian world would explode. Remember Nigeria and the Netherlands. Christians are capable of violence too.


33 posted on 09/16/2006 7:57:26 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Thumper1960
Who will carry out the "crusade"? Certainly no western government. Christians have no ability, or mandate, in themselves to carry out violent attacks that would be a "death warrant."

I want this perverted cult to go away, too, but what temporal means will bring this about?

34 posted on 09/16/2006 7:57:41 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Michael Goldsberry

Can you imagine the retribution should some follower of the Prophet (cursed be his name) should off the Pope? Your average European isn't all that religious, but he or she still takes some things seriously, especially in southern Europe. There wouldn't be a Moslem alive south of the Danube within a couple of years.


35 posted on 09/16/2006 7:58:53 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: dimeadozen
I would submit the outpouring for the late Pope as an example. Granted, the current Pope hasn't achieved that level of respect or devotion. However, as a world wide symbol of the Christian religion, an attack on the Pope would be an attack on all Christians, of all stripes. It is one thing to have a church in Boondocks, Bumpkinland firebombed and its minister eviscerated. It is quite another to have the Vatican, or the Pope, attacked, bombed or murdered.

If such an event did not turn 1% of Catholics all over the world into bloodthirsty, avenging warriors, then Catholicism needn't deserve to survive.

36 posted on 09/16/2006 7:59:25 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: kanawa

ROFLOL! That's funny. I just looked at the ones in the front. Of course as nutty as they are nothing is really surprising. I'm going to see if I can find this "protest" picture at another source.


37 posted on 09/16/2006 8:00:14 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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To: Chaguito

Who said Christians would need any government to assist them in 'taking out the trash'?


38 posted on 09/16/2006 8:01:18 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: kanawa
This same sign turned up in a different picture. LOL. No idea what it's supposed to mean.

Maybe they just like to rhyme. LOL.


39 posted on 09/16/2006 8:09:52 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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To: Sue Perkick
Not a photoshop...
"AN undercover investigation has caught leaders of a radical Islamic group inciting young British Muslims to become terrorists and praising the Tube bombers as “the fantastic four”." link

"Most of the placards appeared on Friday, running through permutations on several themes. They read: "Butcher those who mock Islam", "Slay those who insult Islam", "Behead those who insult Islam", and "Kill those who insult Islam". Some evoked previous al-Qaida suicide bombings: "Europe you will pay, your 9/11 is on the way", or "7/7 is on its way", "Europe you will pay, fantastic 4 are on their way", and "Europe you will pay, Bin Laden is on his way". As well as the rhyming "Europe you'll come crawling, when the Mujahideen come roaring", there were splenetic varieties: "Freedom go to hell", "Liberalism go to hell", and "Freedom of expression go to hell".


40 posted on 09/16/2006 8:11:40 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Syco
But its true...the Pope didn't speak to offend. Afirming that one's intentions were not to offend is NOT "backing down," or anywhere close to a retraction.
41 posted on 09/16/2006 8:11:45 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: Dark Skies
The beauty of all this is they fail to see how their actions and statements prove the words to be true. Without violence islam is nothing, it is the glue that holds it together.
42 posted on 09/16/2006 8:14:47 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: Dark Skies
The cross will never be destroyed. We had Christian Martyrs long, long, before Islam reared its head.
43 posted on 09/16/2006 8:16:14 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: kanawa
OK. Thanks.

When you pointed out the "Fantastic 4", a different mental image came to me. It seemed so bizarre I thought for a minute it might be a photoshop-like these people need to be photoshopped. They do fine all by themselves. LOL.

Appreciate it.

44 posted on 09/16/2006 8:26:56 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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To: Michael Goldsberry
Interesting breakdown:

Major Denominational Families of Christianity
(This table does not include all Christians. These numbers are estimates, and are here primarily to assist in ranking branches by size, not to provide a definitive count of membership.)
Branch Number of Adherents
Catholic 1,050,000,000
Orthodox/Eastern Christian 240,000,000
African indigenous sects (AICs) 110,000,000
Pentecostal 105,000,000
Reformed/Presbyterian/Congregational/United 75,000,000
Anglican 73,000,000
Baptist 70,000,000
Methodist 70,000,000
Lutheran 64,000,000
Jehovah's Witnesses 14,800,000
Adventist 12,000,000
Latter Day Saints 12,500,000
Apostolic/New Apostolic 10,000,000
Stone-Campbell ("Restoration Movement") 5,400,000
New Thought (Unity, Christian Science, etc.) 1,500,000
Brethren (incl. Plymouth) 1,500,000
Mennonite 1,250,000
Friends (Quakers) 300,000

Major Branches of Islam
Branch Number of Adherents
Sunni 940,000,000
Shiite 120,000,000
Ahmadiyya 10,000,000 *
Druze 450,000

from here:Religion Demographics

45 posted on 09/16/2006 8:27:23 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Dark Skies
There's one good thing about this contretemps - it draws the lines more clearly.

Every time a Western institution is threatened, the divide becomes wider for those who think about it for longer than 2 minutes or do not have another agenda.

President Bush, PM Howard, and PM Blair get it. So does the Pope. How much more will it take for the rest of the West's leadership wakes up?

46 posted on 09/16/2006 8:28:02 AM PDT by WarEagle (Karl Rove did it....)
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To: Dark Skies

The Pope says his words, intent were misinterpreted. It seems the misinterpretation is deliberate and that conversation is therefore impossible.


47 posted on 09/16/2006 8:30:08 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Syco
LOL! Watch the Vatican pull a George 'Jet Puffed' Allen macaca grovelfest.

Come on Pope B, let's do the Islamic macaca grovel!!


48 posted on 09/16/2006 8:38:01 AM PDT by zarf
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To: Dark Skies

They are upset the Pope quoted someone saying Islam is a violent religion, and so they are going to blow people up in protest at the slander.


49 posted on 09/16/2006 8:40:03 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: mutley

Moslem men seem to think about about little more than sex and death. What a depressing life they have.


50 posted on 09/16/2006 8:46:36 AM PDT by kalee
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