Skip to comments.Chirac says Iran should not be referred to Security Council during talks
Posted on 09/18/2006 3:33:51 AM PDT by Nextrush
PARIS-French President Jacques Chirac suggested Monday that the international community renounce referring Iran to the U.N. Security Council during nuclear talks-and that Iran, in return, suspend uranium enrichment.
"I don't believe in a solution without dialogue," Chirac said on Europe-1 radio, suggesting that the international community suspend the threat of U.N. sanctions in exchange for Iran's suspension of enrichment during negotiations.
"I am not pessimistic," Chirac said. "I think that Iran is a great nation, an old culture, an old civilization, and that we can find solutions through dialogue."
He suggested that, firstly an agenda for talks be set forth by both sides, Iran and the six nations currently involved in the issue--France, Germany, Britain, Russia, China and the United States.
"We must, on the one hand, together, Iran and the six countries, meet and set an agenda, then start negotiations. Then during these negotiations, I suggest that the six renounce referring (Iran to) the U.N. Security Council and that Iran renounce uranium enrichment during negotiations," Chirac said.
The French president spoke before heading to New York for the U.N. General Assembly.........
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Ah, the words of a coward who doesn't want to face the last 25 years of reality.
What a spineless creature.
so what's up Jack?
You and your cronies making loads of dough off Iran similar to how you did with Iraq? YOu gonna sell out the west for a profit once again?
Crapass weasels is what I see when I think france.
Boy that was a good idea giving them a seat on the security council. /s
Does anybody have a rational explanation for France's perrenial support of wackjob regimes? I've got the coward thing, the stupid thing, etc. Does anyone have a rational explanation?
What kind of world does Chirac live in. I wouldn't trust anything that Iran says anyway.
The BBC was hyping Chirac's comments on the radio at around 5:30 this morning eastern time. They're probably more friendly to the Iranian fanatics than Chirac.
Now they are plugging it on TV as I write this.
Multiple millions of muslims in France.
Personally, I suspect if it is not too late already, it will be soon.
The lights are going out all over Europe. We shall not see them lit again in our lifetime
- British Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey in the gathering dusk of August 4 1914
Chirac is backsliding again. The silence from him for awhile was so refreshing but I suppose that's over now.
"I think it's simply the same mentality."
I would disagree. I think that the French, especially their politicians, think that they are smartr and more "diplomatic" than "those upstart Americans". They think they should be the rightful leaders of the free world. Thus, they will do anything, including imperiling the world, to get their rightful status back.
In this sense they are much like the Dims in this country. They are so bent on rgaining power that they will sell out anybody- including the rest of the world!
Love your tag. :)
True. They still think they're a super power.
Worked well in the thirties, why not try it again? Peace in our time.
"we can find solutions through dialogue."
Sure you can. Ask the Pope.
The Persians and the French share this deep sense of the loss of Empire and glory - the Persians pine for the days of Cyrus the Great and the Frogs for the days of Charlemagne or at least Louis XIV or Napoleon Bonaparte.
All periods of despotism. As well pine for the Roman Empire under Caligula or Nero. It is no accident that the American Founders looked not to such examples, but to the England of Magna Charta and the Glorious Revolution, and to the Roman Republic. Even the Germans, for all their faults, romanticized not empire but the prehistoric liberties of the Germanic tribes with elected kingship and a rough equality among warrior citizens.
Is it possible that Chirac is so stupid that he doesn't even know he is being played for a fool?Maybe the French ARE being bought and paid for again.
I totally agree. Further, this is not just an affliction of the French. It pervades academia. "We're more thoughtful and educated than those unenlightened people that just don't get it." They are lost in their own dogma.
I don't know if such a book exists or not, but it would be very interesting to see a compiled listing of all the positions vehemently held and defended by the 'enlightened' over the past 500 years, and compare those to what the historical realities turned out to be. Marxism is just one example.
Eurodif, which means European Gaseous Diffusion Uranium Enrichment Consortium, is a subsidiary company of French company Cogéma which exploits a uranium enrichment plant established in the nuclear site of Tricastin in Pierrelatte in Drôme. The nuclear site of Pierrelatte includes many nuclear installations of which most imposing are the nuclear thermal power station of Tricastin and the Eurodif fuel factory.
In 1973 France, Belgium, Spain and Sweden formed the joint stock company EURODIF. Sweden withdrew from the project in 1974. In 1975 Swedens 10 per cent share in EURODIF went to Iran as a result of an arrangement between France and Iran. The French government subsidiary company Cogema and the Iranian Government established the Sofidif (Société francoiranienne pour lenrichissement de luranium par diffusion gazeuse) enterprise with 60 per cent and 40 per cent shares, respectively. In turn, Sofidif acquired a 25 per cent share in EURODIF, which gave Iran its 10 per cent share of EURODIF.
In 1974, the Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi lent 1 billion dollars (and another 180 million dollars in 1977) for the construction of the factory, to have the right to buy 10% of the production. After the Islamic revolution of 1979, Iran's government suspended its payments and attempted to obtain a refund for the loan by pressuring France by handling terrorist groups. Finally an agreement was reached in 1991: France refunded more than 1,6 billion dollars. Iran remains a shareholder of Eurodif via Sofidif, a Franco-Iranian consortium shareholder which owns 25 % of Eurodif.
Naturally occurring Uranium, contains 0.7% of Uranium 235. Currently, it is enriched up to 5% by a gas diffusion process using uranium hexafluoride (UF6). However, France will abandon the gas diffusion process currently used by the Eurodif factory for a process by centrifugation. The project announced by Areva to make the change, was the subject of a public discussion in the Rhône-Alpes region from September 1 to October 22, 2004. The advantage of this new process is the lesser consumption of energy: Eurodif currently uses the power generated by all three of Tricastin's nuclear reactors, whereas the centrifuge-based plant could make similar amounts of uranium with only 50 MW.
The estimated schedule, which plans for the first output of the George Besse II plant at the end of 2007, seems to be facing some delay because of safety studies concerning the risk of seismic activity, criticality in the fuel enrichment process, and the risk of a plane-based terrorist attack; these were mandated by the nuclear safety authority.
What was that nation that gave Arafat's wife a home away from home all those years?
The United States should start bombing Iran's nuclear development sites now, and keep bombing them until they are pulverized. At the same time, we should bomb their oil pipelines, completely shutting down their oil export business.
Iran is a neo-Nazi state which sponsors terrorism. It must not be allowed to obtain or build nuclear weapons. The UN is a joke. Negotiating with Iran, Hezbollah, etc. is idiocy.
I don't believe there is a solution to deal with Iran that includes France. Jacques can "dialog" till he's blue....empty talk won't solve anything.
Wasn't there some Iranian 'deadline' that recently passed? What happended to that?
Maybe we need to set another deadline. or two. In the interim, I'm so glad that Kim il, Amanutjob, and Chavez are getting along swimmingly.
Fifty years from now the histor books will state:
"After the end of the Islamic/Western World War IV in 2014, the U.S. dissolved the United Nations from it shores. The UN fell into the proverbial 'dustbin' in similar fashion and rationale as the League of Nations. The U.S. state department, under the administration of President Coburn, concluded that muslim world had been responsible for over 20-40 million deaths, to which there had been no response by the world body. In a dramatic fashion, President Saddam Hussein, in his triumphant return in 2009 to the Iraqi presidency after the Sectarian Civil War of 2008, had attempted to have himself nominated as the new Secretary General of the UN. After repeated reports of Saddam walking out on his table at the local deli, American officials quietly began the seeds for the transfer of the UN charter to Uganda." ------ "Seeds in the Desert"-Henry Kissinger, Jr. 2056.
We're attacking him here, but he hasn't said anything wrong. If Iran suspends uranium enrichment during talks, that has the same result as a referral to the SC, imposition of sanctions, and them suspending uranium enrichment in order to get the sanctions removed.
In either case, suspension of enrichment is the goal and it would be achieved.
Chances are that A'Job will step in it, as a result of his rhetorical flourishes during his upcoming speech at the U.N.
We won't have long to wait.
Not to mention losing all of those billions of contracts France has with iran. They'd make the french economy tank right quick.
Are these the same negotiations that the Iranian "negotiator" was laughing at the "EU3" about not 6 months ago because they'd bought 2 years of time to advance their nuclear program?
He laughed at England, France and Germany on international television no less.
Fools never learn.
The friend of my enemy is not my friend.
Or something like that.
Chirac has his head in a dark place.
Always remember to disinfect anything touched by scum...
Dialogue? They already told us, "No, no, no, and NO."
There will be dialogue after Iran bombs Israel
That may well be technically true, however...
If Iran suspends uranium enrichment during talks, that has the same result as a referral to the SC, imposition of sanctions, and them suspending uranium enrichment in order to get the sanctions removed.
In either case, suspension of enrichment is the goal and it would be achieved.
*THAT* is a mighty big "if", and given the tone *and* content of Iran's leadership, extreme doubts obtain that Iran would abide by such. Ergo, to anyone with a moiety of commonsense, its a non-starter, thus making M. Chirac to appear either duplicitous, or a complete and utter fool (take your pick)...
How about that they feel Iran should be respected but also how they must stop their relentless rhetoric about nuking Israel from the map? Oh that's right, we are talking about the French here that would make too much sense... Right now in the West you really only have the USA, Great Britain, Australia, Japan and Poland who have a clue as to what the deal is with Iran...
The only THING left is the Iranian march down the Champs Elysées.
I didn't read the article but I'm trying to think of this maroon's name --- is it Fuque Chirac? That sounds right since that's what everyone seems to say all the time.
"The Persians and the French share this deep sense of the loss of Empire and glory - the Persians pine for the days of Cyrus the Great and the Frogs for the days of Charlemagne or at least Louis XIV or Napoleon Bonaparte."
I pine for the days of the French Revolution when the people rose up and escorted these prissy politicians to meet the new invention, the guillotine! We could use a repeat of that.
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