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1 posted on 09/18/2006 3:35:46 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth

Imagine the insanity of being asked to apologize for something said by somebody hundreds of years ago, or something done in a cartoon. You can't reason with people so wrapped up in a violent religion.

I do, however, propose to send Cleveland's own Kook-sin-itch to the offended muslims with an olive branch and maybe one of his Department Of Peace ambassadors to chat amiably with the poor souls. I'd be willing to risk Dennis the Menace's well being. Wouldn't you?


2 posted on 09/18/2006 3:41:14 PM PDT by laweeks (I)
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Nothing like keeping the fires all stoked up and getting everybody on board.

Hah. So Islam has some residual resentment against the non-Muslim. How about the resentment building to titanic proportions of the non-Muslim being tormented by the Muslim thugs at every turn?

Ethnic cleansing has become a most politically incorrect strategy in recent years, but at a certain point, political correctness be cursed for the handicap to clear action that it is.

I believe the term is "whup-ass". When things are over, former Muslims will be BEGGING to have the opportunity to become atheists, or Baptists, or Buddhists, or even Zoroastrians.

Don't matter what, just as long as the preference is not "Muslim".


3 posted on 09/18/2006 3:47:49 PM PDT by alloysteel (In war, disproportionate force is the ONLY way to assure victory and subsequent peace.)
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To: Esther Ruth
Protests broke out in South Asia and Indonesia, with angry Muslims saying Benedict's statement of regret a day earlier did not go far enough. In southern Iraq, demonstrators carrying black flags burned an effigy of the pope.

The Army Of Black Flags.

The Mahdi’s (Amad's fav guy) ascendancy to power is said to be preceded by an army from the east who will be carrying black flags or banners of war.
Sheikh Kabbani states:
Hadith indicate that black flags coming from the area of Khorasan will signify the appearance of the Mahdi is nigh. Khorasan is in todays Iran, and some scholars have said that this hadith means when the black flags appear from Central Asia, i.e. in the direction of Khorasan, then the appearance of the Mahdi is imminent.
Another tradition states that:
The Messenger of Allah said: The black banners will come from the East and their hearts will be as firm as iron. Whoever hears of them should join them and give allegiance, even if it means crawling across snow.
In Islam there are two flags. One is white and one is black. Written across both flags in Arabic are the words, “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger”. The white flag is called Al-Liwaa and serves as the sign for the leader of the Muslim army and is the flag of the Islamic State. The black flag is called Ar-Raya and is used by the Muslim army. It is also called the flag of jihad, and is carried into battle. One flag is governmental and the other is a military flag.
When Muhammad returned to his home city of Mecca after being exiled for eight years, he returned as a conqueror. With him were ten thousand Muslim soldiers. They carried with them black flags. On the flags was one word written in Arabic: punishment.
I was once talking to a group of young Muslim men and asking them some questions. I asked them if the obvious superior militaries of America and Israel compared to the militaries of any Islamic nations were a source of difficulty for many Muslims. One of these men then became very angry at my question and snapped out, “You Americans and Zionists better get ready, because the black flags are coming!” At the time, I had no idea what he was talking about. Later I learned the meaning.

4 posted on 09/18/2006 3:49:21 PM PDT by BigFinn
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Few in the Islamic world were satisfied by Benedict's statement of regret.

Satan is pissed off!

5 posted on 09/18/2006 3:53:27 PM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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Let me make certain I’ve got this straight: (1) the Muslims are upset about the Catholic Pope’s recent remarks, particularly a historic quote asserting that Muhammad might condone (promote?) the spread of Islam by violent means; thereupon, (2) to demonstrate that Islam is indeed a religion of peace, contrary to the Pope’s direct or oblique suggestion, the Muslims (a) kill a Catholic nun, (b) burn several Catholic cathedrals and Jewish synagogues, (c) burn the Pope in effigy, (d) openly call for the assassination of the Pope, and (e) engage generally in violent activities inconsistent with civilized humanoid behavior. What’s wrong with this picture??? Tell me again why I should trust a Muslim in the context of peaceful coexistence?


6 posted on 09/18/2006 4:00:50 PM PDT by No-Really-But (Just so tired of fuzzy thinking, rants, etc.)
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We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose the 'jizya' tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (being killed by) the sword."

This is the first time I've seen the word "liquor" used in this quote. Earlier versions used "wine" in their translations, which, when preceeded with a promise to "break up the cross," and, it's directed at the pope, I took as a reference to the Mass. So, no more churches, no more sacraments, and no more "bribing your way" through dhimmitude.

It's "convert or die."

7 posted on 09/18/2006 4:01:18 PM PDT by Oratam
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Pakistani religious students march, holding a placard, right, which reads, 'apology is not enough, prove it practically,' to condemn the anti-Islam remarks of Pope Benedict XVI which hurt the sentiments of Muslims, Monday, Sept. 18, 2006 in Islamabad, Pakistan. Protests continued to demand that Pope apologize fully for his remarks on Islam and violence. (AP Photo/Anjum Naveed)


11 posted on 09/18/2006 7:26:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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