Posted on 09/18/2006 7:56:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON - The White House said Monday it was revising its proposal for dealing with terrorism suspects as indications grew that President Bush's plan was meeting increased resistance among Republicans in both chambers of Congress.
White House Deputy Press Secretary Dana Perino said the administration was sending the new language in hopes of reaching an agreement. A revolt by GOP senators, who have written their own proposal giving terror detainees more rights than the administration wants, has embarrassed the White House at a time when Republicans want to use their security policies as a main platform in November's congressional elections.
"Our commitment to finding a resolution is strong," Perino said.
A week after a Republican-led Senate committee defied Bush and approved terror-detainee legislation that the president vowed to block, three more GOP senators said they now opposed the administration's version, joining the four Republicans who had already come out against it.
If all 44 Democrats plus the chamber's Democratic-leaning independent also vote for the alternative by Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., as expected, that would give it a majority in the 100-member Senate.
In a further hint of problems for the administration, House officials said their chamber was postponing a vote planned for Wednesday on a bill mirroring Bush's proposal.
Republican officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they have encountered resistance and were no longer certain they had enough votes to push the measure to passage through the GOP-run House.
Kevin Madden, spokesman for House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said the vote would be rescheduled to next week and blamed the delay on a request by the House Judiciary Committee to study the bill.
An administration official, who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity surrounding the negotiations, said the new language only addresses a dispute over the nation's obligations under the Geneva Conventions, which set the standard for treatment of prisoners taken during hostilities.
No other details of the new administration plan were initially available.
Warner told reporters Monday that the White House and his office continued to exchange "alternative proposals" on an informal basis and played down suggestions that the administration was backing down or rewriting its bill.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), who helped Warner draft the alternative bill, said negotiations were helped by the two sides meeting over the weekend to debate the issue on network news shows and recognizing common goals. Graham appeared Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation," alongside White House National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley.
"Since Sunday we've been talking about it and the hard work is yet to go," said Graham, R-S.C.
The White House's Perino said the "legislation, once finished, will provide not only a way to bring the mastermind of 9/11 to justice, but also provide clarity to our men and women in the intelligence community who are interrogating these high-value detainees who helped provide information that allowed us to disrupt and prevent additional terrorist plots against America."
The president's measure would go further than Warner's bill, allowing classified evidence to be withheld from defendants in terror trials and allowing coerced testimony. Bush also favors a narrower interpretation of the Geneva Conventions that would make it harder to prosecute U.S. interrogators for using harsh techniques.
Neither side is saying how an agreement can be achieved on whether to allow the CIA to use highly controversial methods such as disorientation, forced nakedness and waterboarding, in which a subject is made to think he is drowning. Without confirming any specific techniques used by the CIA, the Bush administration says the agency's program has foiled terror plots. Opponents say the techniques verge on torture.
Last week, Warner, normally a Bush supporter, pushed his measure through his Senate Armed Services Committee by a 15-9 vote. The White House argued that the Senate proposal would end the CIA program to interrogate terrorists.
Whether Bush would have enough votes to win on the Senate floor seemed in question. On Monday, Warner appeared to have the majority of support in the Senate, with at least 52 votes in his favor if Democrats backed him, as expected.
GOP Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island and Olympia Snowe of Maine said they favor Warner's bill, joining Warner and three others who voted for it during the committee meeting last week.
Neither side has been able to muster definitively the 60 votes necessary to prevent a Senate filibuster of their proposal. This uncertainty — along with hope that the White House and Warner would reach an agreement to stave off a Republican showdown on the Senate floor_ has kept the bill from being voted on.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., who supports the president's bill, has said he wants to pass it before lawmakers recess at the end of the month. Doing so would allow the president to proceed with prosecutions of 14 "high-value" terrorists before the midterm elections.
The president's plan has encountered resistance in the House as well, with Rep. Steve Buyer (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., urging Bush to heed the military's top uniformed lawyers, who have previously opposed some provisions of the president's plan.
An agreement would keep Republicans from having to choose between backing Bush, as they have done in the past on anti-terror issues, and three Republicans known as leaders on national security issues: Warner, R-Va., a former Navy secretary; John McCain, R-Ariz., a former prisoner of war who last year pushed through legislation banning mistreatment of detainees; and Graham, R-S.C., a reserve judge for the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.
Stinking RINOS.
This sucks!
What do you get when a bunch of dems and a pack of Rino's seek to alter an effective strategy for the sake of political feel-goodism?
Let's hope it isn't a major attack in this country, but if it comes to that, then all their heads should roll down the steps of the Capitol building.
This country is being run by a bunch of looney tunes in Congress....and when we are taken over by the Muslims..I want everyone to remember the names, McCain, Warner, Graham, Powell.
Former US secretary of state Colin Powell, seen here in 2004, sent a letter to Senator John McCain, R-AZ, condemning the administration's plan to change rules governing detainee treatment. Bush rejected Powell's warning saying, "If there's any comparison between the compassion and decency of the American people and the terrorist tactics of extremists, it's flawed logic."(AFP/File/Luke Frazza)
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. is seen through a door window as he talks with Boston College students before addressing the First Year Academic Convocation on the university campus in Boston Monday night Sept. 18, 2006. (AP Photo/Stephan Savoia)
Senate Armed Services Committee members, from left, chairman, Sen. John Warner, R-Va., Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. confer during a markup meeting on detainee legislation on Capitol Hill in Washington Thursday, Sept. 14, 2006. (AP Photo/Dennis Cook)
PING
I say they make detainees listen to Ween instead of the Chili Peppers.
With all of the hubbub about "torture", I'd damn near forgot about the twits wanting to give detainees access to sensitive evidence
We conservatives want to put the terrorists' testicles into a vise. The liberals don't. I suggest a mathematically precise compromise. Only one testicle per terrorist per vise. Problem solved! To show our "humanity," give them their choice of left or right.
The Jihadist are laughing, the Senate is stinking and McCain, Graham, Warner etal should be ashamed of themselves.
Frist is an embarrasment, and a cohort in the non-sense!
WTF is going on?
BTW I have the ice rink in hell reserved for next monday.
Gipper roll to right, the soul of the GOP is on the left and you may otherwise squash any hope we have!
The more I observe politics, the more attractive the idea of Senators and congressmen, at least, being chosen by random lottery.
I think it is time for those senators to get off their high horses, shelf their excessive egos and stubborness and give this country what it needs to protect the citizens.
It does not matter one whit who gets their ego hurt, who has to concede. It matters that they allow a president of the United States to protect its citizens.
Now they had better realize the "club" is not the President, the "club"'s purpose is to write legislation that serves the citizens of the United States and protects them. It is not a tool of political power, status, ambitions, or egos. We are also not to be at the mercy of the world as to how we can protect ourselves. If they want to please the world, let them serve in the U.N. - this is America.
I feel sure their trumped up decision not to agree with the president was a lame excuse not to write legislation regarding what tactics can be used in interrogration before an election. They did not want to put their true views on the line. This might have been done to concede to their friends the democrats as the democrats are the top priority for McCain.
I am totally ashamed of the spectacle the senators have made of a President merely trying to protect the country.
They should be ashamed and they will not be forgotten for how they are acting. They have embarrassed the country and again shown the terrorists how weak all other than President Bush are in this government.
Oh, by the way......McCain has shown that he is definitely not presidential material.
Hm.....any decision would be made based on what all other countries would think of us.
Any decision would be based on what serves him best.
Any decision would be weak, would make America weak and would not provide security for me or my family.
Tough luck McCain - you out manuevered yourself. That goes for the follower Lindsay also. Anything, any time to stab the president in the back rather than join with the president to serve the conservative agenda and this country.
Who needs a John McCain?
NAME THESE SENATORS ... I WANT NAMES!!
Graham, McCain and Collins.
That is not enough to block the President
If this BS article is true .. there are more senators .. let these COWARDS go on record
War by lawyer. We're done.
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