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Clinton, Gingrich both defend the pope (Hillary's got Benedict XVI's back!)
Associated Press ^ | 09/20/06

Posted on 09/20/2006 7:22:53 PM PDT by presidio9

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, longtime foes in American politics, forcefully defended Pope Benedict XVI on Tuesday against a wave of Muslim criticism over a speech last week.

When asked about the controversy prior to her speech at an American Cancer Society event, Clinton, D-N.Y., said the pope's follow-up statement should have been enough to settle the matter.

"It's just outrageous and offensive that people would be threatening violence against him based on what he said, especially when there is so much they should be working on together," Clinton said.

The former first lady has a huge lead in her Senate re-election bid this year. Her opponent, Republican John Spencer, had criticized her Tuesday for not speaking out in the pope's defense.

After appearing onstage with Clinton at the cancer event, Gingrich was even more outspoken about the religious tension.

"I think what he said in his entire speech ... is that Islam has to come to grips with having a genuine dialogue of mutual respect," said Gingrich, a Georgia Republican when he was in the House. "Everything you've seen of the viciousness and the evil that has been said since then by fanatics reinforces the pope's speech."

Both Clinton and Gingrich, who as House speaker sparred for years with President Clinton, are considered potential presidential candidates in 2008.

Benedict angered much of the Muslim world with a speech that cited a Medieval text that characterized some of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman," particularly "his command to spread by the sword the faith." He later said he was "deeply sorry" if Muslims were offended, but some Muslims demanded a more forceful apology.

The comments led to mass protests in several Muslim countries. In Somalia, a Catholic nun was slain, a shooting that may have been motivated by anger at the pope's remarks.

"I think it's amazing that a 65-year-old nun who's serving as a nurse in Somalia can be killed over words, and people aren't outraged by the vicious barbarians that killed her," Gingrich said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: presidio9
"Everything you've seen of the viciousness and the evil that has been said since then by fanatics reinforces the pope's speech." Mr Gingrich said.

Thank you Mr Speaker!

21 posted on 09/20/2006 7:53:49 PM PDT by montag813
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To: presidio9
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, longtime foes in American politics, forcefully defended Pope Benedict XVI on Tuesday against a wave of Muslim criticism over a speech last week.

What the heck took her so long?

Wait for the polls to come back, did ya, Hillie?

22 posted on 09/20/2006 7:53:59 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: OldFriend

No he isn't. Il Papa is a formal name.


23 posted on 09/20/2006 7:54:55 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

I was punning. He misused the word right instead of write.


24 posted on 09/20/2006 7:58:03 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: OldFriend

Seriesly?


25 posted on 09/20/2006 7:58:31 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

This sure shows she had her ear to the ground and her finger on the pulse of world events, "especially when there is so much they should be working on together," Clinton said. sarc/


26 posted on 09/20/2006 7:58:47 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: presidio9
Now I'm curious :)

FWIW, according to my AP Stylebook, the rule is capitalize when used as a formal title before a name (Pope Paul came, saw, went....); lowercase in all other uses (Afterwards the pope did x, x, z...)

But what does AP know :)

27 posted on 09/20/2006 7:59:17 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

"Pope" is part of the man's name. It signifies that he is the direct successor to the apostle Peter, the first pope. The AP might be clueless, but it is more likely that they are aware of this and choose to disregard it.


28 posted on 09/20/2006 8:01:49 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9
Well, all I know is Hillie sure took her time coming out with her support.
29 posted on 09/20/2006 8:04:59 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: presidio9

Pandering, plain and simple. Clinton believes in nothing but her political career. If she has his back, he better watch out for the knife she will soon stick in it.


30 posted on 09/20/2006 8:06:09 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Democrats: Weak on defense, weak on crime, tough on your wallet)
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To: presidio9
"It's just outrageous and offensive that people would be threatening violence against him based on what he said, especially when there is so much they should be working on together," Clinton said.

Can you get anymore weak than that?

31 posted on 09/20/2006 8:12:29 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: presidio9
It's just outrageous and offensive that people would be threatening violence against him based on what he said, especially when there is so much they should be working on together," Clinton said.

HELLO. Who the hell do you think you are talking about Hitlery? They are terrorists. Flat out positively vicious killers. They are not offensive or even outrageous. They are KILLERS you stupid idiot viper. Talking is not one of their strong points.

32 posted on 09/20/2006 8:38:16 PM PDT by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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"It's just outrageous and offensive that people would be threatening violence against him based on what he said,

Hey cankles. you miss the point. It is what the pope read from their Islamic propaganda that pissed off Islamofacists. These people are so dense they don't even know it.

33 posted on 09/20/2006 8:43:59 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: presidio9

I didn't capitalize "pope" because I'm not a Roman Catholic.


34 posted on 09/20/2006 8:45:22 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Does a Hildabeast crap in the woods?

I googled "hildebeast" as in the animal to get a picture to post here, and all the hits came up about the democrat Hildebeast senator from NY.

35 posted on 09/20/2006 8:50:23 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Cobra64
Hahahaha. You are right.

That's funny.

36 posted on 09/20/2006 8:54:11 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: presidio9
"I think it's amazing that a 65-year-old nun who's serving as a nurse in Somalia can be killed over words, and people aren't outraged by the vicious barbarians that killed her," Gingrich said.

Amazing? it's an outrage. Before you can negotiate with savages you have to be able to speak their language. And their language is savagery.

37 posted on 09/20/2006 8:58:08 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Islam is temporal not spiritual)
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To: presidio9
Oh Hillary, thou is really running for President isn't thou? She would never defend a Christian other any other circumstances. Her administration sent out warnings to police depts all over the country about Christians being potential terrorists! (oh, you mean it wasn't HER administration!)
38 posted on 09/20/2006 9:01:36 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: presidio9

Hillary speaks out in defense of the Pope and "moderate Muslims" stay silent. That speaks volumes.


39 posted on 09/20/2006 9:10:50 PM PDT by Ruth A. (we might as well fight in the first ditch as the last)
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To: keats5; presidio9
> "Pope" is not capitalized in the article's original title. That's just wrong.

Actually, I think it's right, strictly speaking anyway.

The phrase "the pope" indicates the current holder of an office, just as "the president" describes the holder of an office. Those usages do not require capitalization.

OTOH, the proper name "Pope Benedict" should be capitalized, just as "President Bush" is capitalized.

40 posted on 09/20/2006 9:30:10 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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