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"shoving it thru"

Discussions on what to do about the roads began in the 80s.
The Center of Transportation Research released their final report in 96, in which they recommended the MultiModal Corridor.
In Jan 02 TxDot began an implementation plan.
In 03, the legislation was completed
There has been uncountable meetings and comment.

How is all that "shoving it thru"?

As for all these very good conservative people you know, they need to come up with an alternative. Or, more to the point, how much are you going to have to raise the gas tax?

How is all that "shoving it thru"?

In the real world, "shoving it through" means taking action well before a political concensus has been reached. Political decisions on infrastructure aren't made on tidy engineering timetables. They are made when enough people decide that they are ready. And if that seems too long for you, well, too bad.

I lived in Dallas in the late 70's and early 80's. Central Expressway was a problem, and it had been a problem for 20 years before I got there. The political concensus on what to do took a lot of time. I left Dallas long before it was finished, but it did get finished. And the doomsday predictions made over the preceeding 30 years never really panned out.

You can either face the reality that a lot of your fellow Texans aren't ready for this yet, on the scale that it is proposed, or you can keep acting like everyone who is opposed to the TTC is terminally stupid. Just don't be surprised to see obstacles spring up where they didn't have to be.

As for all these very good conservative people you know, they need to come up with an alternative.

BTW - this is a great example of how not to do it. Here, you are implying that the very good conservative people that I know aren't real, or are idiots. And no, they DON'T have to come up with an alternative, on your timetable. People come up with alternatives when they reach a level of discomfort that drives them to it. Maybe they don't use I-35 much. Maybe they don't mind driving an extra hour getting to Seaworld, from Garland. Maybe they gripe about the traffic driving from Manor to New Braunfels, but not enough to do anything about it, yet.

Someday they will. And when enough of them feel enough discomfort, they will propose alternatives, and new roads will be built. Maybe it won't be soon enough for you. Maybe it will be too soon for me. But you can rest assured that it WON'T happen until a political critical mass is reached - and if you think that you are there yet, you are kidding yourself.