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When the ‘American Hiroshima’ comes as promised, our senators won't be guiltless
The Washington Times, JewishWorldReview.com, and others ^ | September 23, 2006 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 09/24/2006 7:06:13 AM PDT by John Carey

Hamid Mir, a Pakistani, is the only journalist to have interviewed Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri, since 9/11.

On the fifth anniversary of the attacks, Mr. Mir was in Afghanistan again, this time to interview Abu Dawood, the new al Qaida field commander there.

Final preparations have been made for an "American Hiroshima," Mr. Dawood told him, Mr. Mir said in an interview with Al Arabiya television last week. The attack or attacks will be led by Adnan El Shukrijumah, Mr. Mir said.

Mr. El Shukrijumah was born in Saudi Arabia in 1975, but grew up in Brooklyn. He was a friend of 9/11 hijack leader Mohammed Atta, and is both a trained nuclear technician and a pilot. The FBI is offering a reward of up to $5 million for his capture.

When Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the former al Qaida operations chief who planned the 9/11 attacks was captured in 2003, he reportedly told his interrogators that Mr. El Shukrijumah would be in charge of the next major attack on America.

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americanhiroshima; hamidmir; paulwilliams; shukrijumah
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1 posted on 09/24/2006 7:06:13 AM PDT by John Carey
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To: John Carey

Exactly!..Our politicians will have the blood of Americans on their hands they can't wash off.


2 posted on 09/24/2006 7:09:46 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: John Carey

That article said -- "Adnan El Shukrijumah was last seen in Mexico in November, 2004, where he allegedly stole a crop duster near Mexicali. He's plotting to kill as many of us as he can. If he succeeds, give much of the credit to those in the Senate who want to cripple our ability to listen in on terrorist communications; to track terror financing, and to interrogate terror suspects."

Yeah, the Congress has much more warning of the nuclear option (*now*) than it did of the flying of the planes into the World Trade Center (*back then*). But, then again, I see a lot of "sticking heads in sand" here on FreeRepublic, too.

Regards,
Star Traveler


3 posted on 09/24/2006 7:10:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: John Carey
"Final preparations have been made for an "American Hiroshima,""

The only problem with these nutcases is that for them, an "American Hiroshima" would equal "Pearl Harbor II" and "awaken a sleeping giant and fill it with a terrible resolve".

America has thus far been fighting the WOT with a single finger of one hand. If ANY "weapon of mass destruction" is used on American soil, the US will go to a full war footing, and all hell will literally be "out for noon" for the Islamofascists.

4 posted on 09/24/2006 7:21:13 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: John Carey
The CIA is understandably vague about the interrogation techniques it seeks to protect, but according to Human Rights Watch, they are: "induced hypothermia; forcing suspects to stand for long periods; sleep deprivation; a technique called 'the attention grab' where a suspect's shirt is forcefully seized; the 'attention slap,' or open hand slapping that hurts but does not lead to physical damage; the 'belly slap," and sound and light manipulation."

Gee, a lot of that sounds like standard Navy Seal training. If it's good enough for our elite troops, how could it be bad for A.Q.?

5 posted on 09/24/2006 7:23:51 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: John Carey

Five years after 911 and American politically correct politicians still have not learned anything. The American ruling elite is willing to sacrifice a certain amount of it's citizens in order bow at the alter of multiculturalism by allowing our borders to be wide open while 11,000 illegals (and some terrorists) pour into this country every day. If/when the next 911 happens, every politician in washington better head for the hills because the people that they swore to protect and defend will tar and feather them in the streets of a smoldering America.


6 posted on 09/24/2006 7:31:14 AM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
The fact that we didn't go to full war footing after 911 tells one much about the people in DC. I hope you are correct and when we are hit again we will go to full war footing.
7 posted on 09/24/2006 7:35:04 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Forgive me Father, I need a reason to believe DC wants to win the War on Terror)
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To: Buffettfan
"The American ruling elite is willing to sacrifice a certain amount of it's citizens in order bow at the alter of multiculturalism by allowing our borders to be wide open while 11,000 illegals (and some terrorists) pour into this country every day.

You left out a few zeros = 11,000,000.00

9 posted on 09/24/2006 7:47:28 AM PDT by blam
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To: Wonder Warthog
the US will go to a full war footing

That's what I thought on 9/11/01.

Now five years have passed and the CommiecRATs have successfully turned enough of us into wimps that even a major hit won't awaken American wrath.

10 posted on 09/24/2006 7:52:25 AM PDT by ASA Vet (The war should have been over at 8:45 AM 9/12/01.)
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To: Buffettfan
the people that they swore to protect and defend will tar and feather them in the streets of a smoldering America.

More likely we'll turn on each other.

11 posted on 09/24/2006 7:54:50 AM PDT by ASA Vet (The war should have been over at 8:45 AM 9/12/01.)
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To: John Carey
The US Senate Democrats and RINOS are responsible for any attack on the United States. They are anti-American and we the people need to take back our rights and repeal the 17th Amendment so that we can get some real Americans in the US Senate.

The founders never, never intended for a Senator to be elected for a period of 6 years by the people. He/She was to be appointed by the state legleslitature so that he/she would follow the wishes of the people of that state. The 17th Amendment has allowed the US Senate to become the failed Senate of Rome and they are sending our nation to ruin.
12 posted on 09/24/2006 8:04:24 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: blam

A day? Read again.


13 posted on 09/24/2006 8:05:02 AM PDT by billhilly (DU Funnies pingee # 911)
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To: Buffettfan
will tar and feather them in the streets of a smoldering America

It will be a lot worse than tar and feathers .... think rope and trees

14 posted on 09/24/2006 8:06:12 AM PDT by clamper1797 (I post ... therefore I am)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Mecca, 2010?


15 posted on 09/24/2006 8:06:49 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: ASA Vet

American wrath is more easily turned on President Bush, the one leader tough enough to fight for us, than it is on the enemy.


16 posted on 09/24/2006 8:06:54 AM PDT by billhilly (DU Funnies pingee # 911)
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To: John Carey

If we're nuked, the politicians will still be chanting "Islam is a religion of peace" and trying to pretend the death cult is separate from the terrorists.


17 posted on 09/24/2006 8:07:25 AM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: All

This thread is going to get pulled because certain people are making threats against our congressmen.


18 posted on 09/24/2006 8:08:13 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: RockinRight
Mecca, 2010?
Vastly improved ... and the average IQ for the region will increase.
19 posted on 09/24/2006 8:08:49 AM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: COEXERJ145
This thread is going to get pulled because certain people are making threats against our congressmen.
I wouldn't make such threats. If we're nuked, all the doves will become hawks again. Full-out war will be supported by all congress critters to protect their jobs.
20 posted on 09/24/2006 8:11:12 AM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: no-to-illegals
" The fact that we didn't go to full war footing after 911 tells one much about the people in DC "

It says a great deal about their lack of character and intestinal fortitude.

It also states volumes about how condescending and weak they believe we are. They fear telling the population the truth. They believe you and I can't handle the true ugliness of what needs to and should be done.

They value their own comfort and security ( of power ) so much that they try to keep us oblivious to the real world.

We may all go to the slaughter house but the majority will go fat dumb and happy because they have been coddled and spoiled by our so called leaders. ( although many are gooing willingly )

21 posted on 09/24/2006 8:16:45 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and Apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: billhilly; Buffettfan
"A day? Read again."

My error, sorry.

22 posted on 09/24/2006 8:17:04 AM PDT by blam
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To: JimRed
Think terrorists can just say "OK, I won't make it" and have it stop? It is so meaningless a comment. You might as well say since surgery is submitted to voluntarily, we should be free to carve captives to make them talk.
23 posted on 09/24/2006 8:20:01 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: blam
Err no, that would have the entire human race here in a year and a half. Methinks not.
24 posted on 09/24/2006 8:21:59 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: ASA Vet

The day after a nuclear attack on America, or more likely, that night, most of the nations that are clamoring for our demise would be the targets of 21st century weaponry. And they are not nuclear. Nukes are old technology. Look at the F18 Hornet and a WWII Corsair, do you think similar progress has not been made in other areas of weapons technology? No infrastructure damage, no lasting contamination, no survivors. It will be politically unavoidable for the government to do otherwise.


25 posted on 09/24/2006 8:22:12 AM PDT by Comus
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To: Buffettfan

"The American ruling elite is willing to sacrifice a certain amount of it's citizens in order bow at the alter of multiculturalism by allowing our borders to be wide open while 11,000 illegals (and some terrorists) pour into this country every day."

From constitutional republic to multicultural mobocracy in 40 years. Quite an achievement.


26 posted on 09/24/2006 8:22:16 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Buffettfan
To all

All true but a majority of the citizenry continue to send these clueless boneheads back to office. Where the force "PC "policies onto the Intel community, the military and federal law enforcement.
27 posted on 09/24/2006 8:23:58 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Comus

I have no doubt about our ability, only our will.


28 posted on 09/24/2006 8:37:58 AM PDT by ASA Vet (The war should have been over at 8:45 AM 9/12/01.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Exactly!..Our politicians will have the blood of Americans on their hands they can't wash off.

They already have the blood of Americans killed by illegals all over their hands...what's a little more?

29 posted on 09/24/2006 8:40:22 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Sadly, thats what I thought after 9/11.

I could see some on the left who say becuase the islamofascists have nukes, that we must negotiate.


30 posted on 09/24/2006 8:41:53 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: Wonder Warthog

Mighty brave words. But just who would we attack? Jingoism futures are a good buy for now, tho.


31 posted on 09/24/2006 8:56:21 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: John Carey
The anti-American Left hates President Bush, Middle America, and--in fact--the United States with such vitriol that rendering America vulnerable to attack or destruction is eclipsed by their hatred.

They choose to think of themselves as Citizens of the World, concerned with the welfare of all people of the world (as though non-Leftists were not), and holding themselves to a higher morality (than the rest of us).

In fact, they are blinded by hatred, hubris, and denial--the stuff of tragedy.

The Democrat Party is the Political Machine of the Left.

The "Mainstream Newsmedia" is its Propaganda Machine.

The Left--in fact--represents decadence--Western Decadence--at its sickest and most destructive.

32 posted on 09/24/2006 8:58:21 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( 9/11 was never repeated thanks to President George W. Bush.)
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To: JimRed

Hell, try staying overnight in a hospital. I can pick out "sleep deprivation" and "sound and light manipulation" right away.


33 posted on 09/24/2006 9:00:24 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: John Carey

Don't sweat it. I'm sure they'll convene hearings, create committees, generate reports, and diffuse blame.


34 posted on 09/24/2006 9:00:39 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: gcruse

We had to dive under our school desks in the 50s when the threat was thousands of nukes going off all over the US. Many of those nukes would have been city busters, 20 megatons or more. This threat of 1-7 20kiloton bombs seems like a joke in comparison, although it would bring a major change to our world outlook.


35 posted on 09/24/2006 9:03:41 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Savage Beast
Desreves to be repeated... The anti-American Left hates President Bush, Middle America, and--in fact--the United States with such vitriol that rendering America vulnerable to attack or destruction is eclipsed by their hatred. They choose to think of themselves as Citizens of the World, concerned with the welfare of all people of the world (as though non-Leftists were not), and holding themselves to a higher morality (than the rest of us). In fact, they are blinded by hatred, hubris, and denial--the stuff of tragedy. The Democrat Party is the Political Machine of the Left. The "Mainstream Newsmedia" is its Propaganda Machine. The Left--in fact--represents decadence--Western Decadence--at its sickest and most destructive.
36 posted on 09/24/2006 9:05:44 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: RightWhale
"We had to dive under our school desks in the 50s when the threat was thousands of nukes going off all over the US. Many of those nukes would have been city busters, 20 megatons or more."

Boy! Those were the days, huh?

37 posted on 09/24/2006 9:05:49 AM PDT by blam
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

C'mon...Congress is busy 24/7 protecting us. This this morning I had to show picture ID to a pharmacist to buy a box of non prescription cold/sinus medicine.

If they are interesting in this minutia in my life, surely they must be interested in the greater matters!

(And yes, I called you shirley.)


38 posted on 09/24/2006 9:07:11 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

And my Senator, the limpwristed Lindsey Graham, will have our blood all over him, not just his hands.


39 posted on 09/24/2006 9:07:22 AM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: dljordan
"From constitutional republic to multicultural mobocracy in 40 years. Quite an achievement."

Profoundly true and profoundly horrible!!!

40 posted on 09/24/2006 9:07:32 AM PDT by SierraWasp (With government as your savior from disaster, it must first be your master!!!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
The only problem with these nutcases is that for them, an "American Hiroshima" would equal "Pearl Harbor II" and "awaken a sleeping giant and fill it with a terrible resolve".

No, sadly, I don't think it would. 50% of Americans would point their fingers at the Bush Administration and ask for their ouster. A percentage of that percentage would actually believe that 'Bush did it'. We are not the same Nation with the same resolve of 50 years ago. More heroism is going to be required of fewer people.

I think the enemy is perfectly aware of the divide in the country. Chavez showed that at the UN. They will hit when they know they can splinter us even more. When is that? I don't know.

A_R

42 posted on 09/24/2006 9:09:40 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Savage Beast

Your second paragraph was very insightful in a very articulate reply!!! Bravo! Encore!


43 posted on 09/24/2006 9:11:29 AM PDT by SierraWasp (With government as your savior from disaster, it must first be your master!!!)
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To: RightWhale

I was in grade school for duck and cover, remember it well. Because of the air force base, the helium plant, and proximity to Pantex where nukes are assembled, Amarillo was in the Top Ten of that particular Hit Parade. We believed it and lived it.

As you say, a pin prick nuke would change our world view... but would it change how we look at the internal threat, ie, radicalized home growns and border security? That our response is up for debate is an answer of sorts itself.


44 posted on 09/24/2006 9:16:56 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Wolfie

In order to be effective, deterrence requires warning. We need to let the Muslim world know that we are going to hold them COLLECTIVELY responsible for any "American Hiroshima"--both those who did the deed and those whose tacit sympathy and support allowed the actual perpetrators to shelter in their midst.

Bush needs to give a speech articulating the "Bush doctrine." "In the event of a nuclear attack by Muslim terrorists on American soil, we will immediately retaliate by vaporizing . . . " naming about 5-10 of the largest/ most significant Muslim cities--Mecca, Medina, Tehran, Qom, etc.

Give them a real incentive to stop Al Qaeda.

The Israelis should do this exact same thing.

Frankly, I think the world would be a much safer place today if we had nuked Mecca the morning of 9/11. Islam would have largely collapsed as an organized religion by now, and we wouldn't be dealing with all this bullshit.


45 posted on 09/24/2006 9:17:02 AM PDT by TheConservator (Confutatis maledictis flammis acribus addictis. . . .)
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To: MissEdie
"And my Senator, the limpwristed Lindsey Graham, will have our blood all over him, not just his hands."

What a humiliating embarrassment he must be causing you... awful!!!

46 posted on 09/24/2006 9:19:05 AM PDT by SierraWasp (With government as your savior from disaster, it must first be your master!!!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Our politicians will have the blood of Americans on their hands they can't wash off.
I agree with you %100 However I doubt they would care . Most are cold blooded , self serving , greedy , corrupt power hungry morons. They have no sense of America nor do they care what really happens to it. The Democrats in particular hate Bush and want power more then they want America to survive and it's peopl eto be safe . Thats a fact I will argue with any Lib anytime , any place.


47 posted on 09/24/2006 9:22:16 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: TheConservator

I concur. Ain't gonna happen though.


48 posted on 09/24/2006 9:22:55 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: gcruse
[ Mighty brave words. But just who would we attack? Jingoism futures are a good buy for now, tho. ]

Answer; Washington D.C.... Attack Washington D.C...
The first cleanup starts in your own kitchen..
The 2nd amendment was not made to insure target practice or hunting..

49 posted on 09/24/2006 9:24:47 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: TheConservator

I agree with Victor Hanson that you must ,BEFORE HAND, warn the sponsors of terror that THEY will be held accountable if anything happens. Be specific and talk in terms of total devestation . The leaders dont want to die , they send the unwashed idiots to die. Fro example , tell Iran if another 9/11 happens they will be one on the list of backers , regardless of what they claim . Then it's on them to reel in the maniacs of terror or die .It's the only way to go .


50 posted on 09/24/2006 9:25:48 AM PDT by sonic109
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