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Sen. Specter: 'Vigorous' Disagreement on Detainee Bill
NewMax ^ | September 24, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 09/24/2006 7:58:43 PM PDT by Kaslin

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said Sunday he has a problem with the Republican agreement on rules for the interrogation and trial of suspects in the war on terror.

President Bush is pushing Congress to put the agreement into law before adjourning for the midterm elections, but Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said Sunday he "vigorously" disagrees with the habeas corpus provision of the bill.

The provision would allow legal counsel and a day in court to only those detainees selected by the Pentagon for prosecution. Other terror suspects could be held indefinitely without a hearing.

"The courts have traditionally been open to make sure that individual rights are protected, and that is fundamental," Specter said on CNN's "Late Edition. "And the Constitution says when you can suspend the writ of habeas corpus, in time of rebellion or invasion. And we don't have either. So that has to be changed, in my opinion."

Specter scheduled a hearing on the issue for Monday. Otherwise, he said, most of the legislation is a "big improvement" over what Bush originally proposed

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: angusmacspecter; grandstanders; grandstanding
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Can we get rid of Specter?
1 posted on 09/24/2006 7:58:44 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

From your lips to God's ears....


2 posted on 09/24/2006 8:01:09 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: Kaslin
If he's just figuring this part out he's on the wrong committee.

The other part of the process is that if this legislation is needed before we put these people on trial and then execute them, then passage does little more for them than advance their date with death.

Why did anyone think the Supreme Court Liberals would do anyone a favor.

3 posted on 09/24/2006 8:02:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
Can we get rid of Specter?
We're cursed w/ the "Old Scottish Law" Senator....will someone, PLEASE SHUT HIM UP...thank you.
4 posted on 09/24/2006 8:05:52 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :^)
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To: muawiyah; All

McPain has enlisted Specter's help because the compromise on interrogations was more in GWB's favor, so Specter is now charged with getting even - and this within the President's own party!!!!!; can you believe these RINO slime?


5 posted on 09/24/2006 8:07:34 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Kaslin

I swear that a democrat in that Senate seat would cause much less harm than Specter has.


6 posted on 09/24/2006 8:09:18 PM PDT by volunbeer (Pelosi)
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To: Kaslin
Specter should read the Constitution a little closer.

Article 1, section 9-

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The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
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From Dictionary.com, here is the entry for "invasion"

–noun 1. an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, esp. by an army.
2. the entrance or advent of anything troublesome or harmful, as disease.
3. entrance as if to take possession or overrun: the annual invasion of the resort by tourists.
4. infringement by intrusion.

I would postulate that terrorists can easily be identified by all 4 definitions.
7 posted on 09/24/2006 8:10:21 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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Please, somebody post that cup of STFU coffee.


8 posted on 09/24/2006 8:10:46 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Kaslin
The Supreme Court ruled that the detainees are subject to POW status and are not US citizens so they aren't entitled to habeas corpus any which way it's looked at. Specter just couldn't stand being out-RINOed by the others.
9 posted on 09/24/2006 8:11:09 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Kaslin

Well, so much for Santorum's candidacy.


10 posted on 09/24/2006 8:15:23 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Kaslin
Frankly, President Bush has only himself to blame. Because he wanted to keep a Senator "with seniority" in that Pennsylvania seat, he backed Senator Spector over the challenger, Pat Toomey, which resulted in Spector's victory in 2004.

Had the President stayed out of that primary battle, Pennsylvania might now have a true conservative Republican Senator (Toomey) or a Democratic Senator in that seat. Either way, that person would not have been the chairman of this committee.

11 posted on 09/24/2006 8:16:48 PM PDT by Prov3456
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To: volunbeer
I swear that a democrat in that Senate seat would cause much less harm than Specter has.

I agree. Better the enemy in front of us than behind us stabbing us in the back.

12 posted on 09/24/2006 8:17:45 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Kaslin
Isn't this pussilanimous asshole one of 100 senators. He can cast his vote and then shut his pie hole.

Add this to Bush's rather long list of f*ups.

13 posted on 09/24/2006 8:18:28 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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To: Kaslin

Senator Sphincter strikes again.


14 posted on 09/24/2006 8:18:45 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Kaslin
Since when do TERRORISTS who want to KILL US have 'rights' in this country?!!!
15 posted on 09/24/2006 8:25:21 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: taxcontrol
And the Constitution says when you can suspend the writ of habeas corpus, in time of rebellion or invasion. And we don't have either

I'd like to know when the constitutional rights enumerated in our USC were extended to the battlefield.

16 posted on 09/24/2006 8:26:01 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: Kaslin
The courts have traditionally been open to make sure that individual rights are protected, and that is fundamental," Specter said on CNN's "Late Edition. "And the Constitution says when you can suspend the writ of habeas corpus, in time of rebellion or invasion. And we don't have either. So that has to be changed, in my opinion
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This statement is the biggest bunch of B.S. I've ever heard on this issue. When has the United States ever been invaded since becoming a sovereign 50 state nation? the closest we have come have been Pearl harbor and 9-11. In both instances we declared war, stated our intentions, identified the enemy, and subsequently detained enemy combatants. I cannot believe that over half of the U.S. Senate wants to give legal rights to the enemy. doesn't that totally defy all logic to the purpose of identifying your enemies in the first place,which would be to defend the citizens of the United States from attack?
17 posted on 09/24/2006 8:26:08 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: Wuli

"McPain has enlisted Specter's help because the compromise on interrogations was more in GWB's favor, so Specter is now charged with getting even - and this within the President's own party!!!!!; can you believe these RINO slime?"

Exactly. Give an inch, they'll be emboldened to demand a mile!

McCain and Specter have out-witted Bill Frist, again.


18 posted on 09/24/2006 8:26:59 PM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: Kaslin

Specter is a mad fool with a frothy mouth. He has all the characteristics of a dog except loyalty.


19 posted on 09/24/2006 8:28:05 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: Kaslin
Can we get rid of Specter?

We tried, but the GOP ignored the people who supported Toomey, because keeping the (R) is more important than anything, even conservative values.

20 posted on 09/24/2006 8:28:56 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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