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To: nopardons

For the record, proof of Hillary's complicity can be accomplished by reasonable inference such as the source and timing of the tip, the mathematical improbability that her gains occured by chance, and especially her misleading and conflicting explanations when questions...all of which add up to consciousness of guilt.

She could and should have been prosecuted during the applicable statutes of limitations, which are extended potentially for as long as any co-conspirator is actively engaged in covering up the crime, by any state or federal prosecutor with jurisdiction.

yes, it does seem she engaged in many other criminal activities, but the cattle futures profit/payoff is exceptional in the fact that no one, apparently, as a novice retail commodity investor has ever matched her supposed record. The only explanation is that it was a bribe, her only defense that she was too dumb to realize she was being bribed.

There were no legal barriers to her prosecution, throughout the full duration of the applicable statutes of limitation as extended by any cover up. Crimes outside the jurisdiction of the SEC for which she could have been held liable were bribery and wire fraud, for example.


60 posted on 09/26/2006 3:57:55 PM PDT by Gail Wynand
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To: Gail Wynand
Okay, let me explain this to you on the lowest possible level, since talking to you like an adult, is not getting through to you.

A trader works on or through an exchange.

A trader buys or sells futures.

A future is something that happens at a point in time, that is anywhere from a day to many days, which make up a month or many months that have yet to have come to pass yet.This is called the future. A day or many days or months, that we have already lived through, is called the past.

People buy and sell futures. Some people go short, betting that a commodity will be worth less, in a certain time period. Some people go long, betting that prices will rise. But regular people, such as Hillary Clinton can't exercise a deal. They must go through a broker, who in turn goes through his or her firm, who in turn has someone on the floor of an exchange OR used a floor trader/broker or the person who keeps "the book" on the floor. This is true of any and every stock/bond/commodity/and option exchange.

NEITHER HILLARY NOR ANY PERSON FOR WHOM RED BONE WAS WORKING, TOLD HIM WHAT TO DO; TOLD HIM WHAT TRADES TO MAKE!

Yes, once it came to light that she had made a ridiculous amount of money on cattle futures, she came up with all kinds of explanations and excuses. It's the Clintonian "thing"; Bill suffers from it too. But, in actual fact, Hillary NEVER did anything at all, but to hand over $1,000 and reap the benefits of a fraud, which is sometimes called "fronting". That was the whole point of having Red Bone do the trading...he knew what he was doing and how to pull off this scam. But IF she had told the truth, she wouldn't "look" like "THE SMARTEST WOMAN IN THE WORLD" and she would have had to admit that she was a part of a fraud.

Was she a part of a criminal enterprise, from which she benefited? YES!

Is any part of ANY of your posts factually correct, re what she did, vis-a-vis the actual trading? HELL NO !

Please go look up ALL of the cases that have been brought to trial, of the people who were given profits that they were NOT legally due, who were in the group that Red Bone was trading for. He has been prosecuted several times; the final time, when Hillary was in the group, was NOT his first conviction. When you have found each case, pleased post them to this thread. Until then, I suggest that you stop posting your delusions.

FYI.........It is NOT true that nobody else, novice or not, has never, until Hillary, be a part of this kind of fraud. As blatant a scam as this was, good old Red had pulled this same fraud off, for others, before.

61 posted on 09/26/2006 5:36:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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