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Retired officers to criticize Rumsfeld
Reuters ^ | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 09/25/2006 5:33:32 AM PDT by TexKat

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To: TexKat

Is this a new batch of disgruntled Generals or have these two been used before?


21 posted on 09/25/2006 5:54:38 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Eagle Eye

Criminal behavior, no, I wouldn't. But personal opinions, yes, I do believe they are supposed to keep out of it.


22 posted on 09/25/2006 5:54:42 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (Ku'uipo, me ke aloha)
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To: TexKat

Same old, same old..


23 posted on 09/25/2006 5:55:36 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: TexKat

I think we need to remember thaat it was the 8 YEARS of Clinton constantly slashing the military's budget and making them do more with less. In the ~3 years prior to the Iraq War, Bush could not get enough defense spending authorized through Congress to make up for all of the old, wortn out, broken down equipment left behind by Clinton and the Dems.

These jerks can bash Rummy all they like, but the one they SHOULD be targeting is their hero BJ "Bubba" Clinton who was diddling interns while OBL was plotting 9/11.


24 posted on 09/25/2006 5:56:11 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: rhombus

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/opinion/19eaton.html?ex=1300424400&en=84baf801cea4e5d6&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


25 posted on 09/25/2006 5:56:48 AM PDT by maggief
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To: TexKat

The military's system of procuring equipment doesn't turn on a dime. The reason why needed equipment like armored humvees weren't available in Iraq has a lot to do with Clinton era defense budgets. We saw the same thing with Reagan's first term as US forces lacked even replacement parts for existing equipment due to Carter's defense budgets.


26 posted on 09/25/2006 5:57:22 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: DustyMoment

Wow it feels like Sept 2004 again. Back then in their quest to get Bush, the "news" media managed to find a new story every day in which some experts or committees had some damaging info about Bush and Iraq, etc etc. Or some "author" came out with a book with explosive details about Iraq and the WOT being mishandled somehow. Here we go again. It'll be the same in '08 too.


27 posted on 09/25/2006 5:58:37 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Let's Roll

The game is in the 3d quarter with our team leading 17 - 3. But our quarterback has thrown 1 interception and 3 of 11 that missed the receiver.

We had only 11 men on the field when we clearly needed more.

This game has been too rough. The players have dirt on their uniforms. We need to turn the intensity of play down a knotch. It seems like every time we turn the intensity up a knotch, so does the other side.

Most importantly, we need to let the other team in our huddle and not keep any secrets from them. Keeping them out of our huddle just makes them more defensive.

The coach warned that not only would this game have to go a full four quarters; but that it would be a long season of facing the opponents in different places.

And they don't all wear the same colors either. It is not fair that we should take our emotion over one game to the opponent in the next game.


We clearly need to change coach, quarterback and game plan.


28 posted on 09/25/2006 5:58:38 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Eagle Eye

I understand them "speaking out" but from this article it is hard to nail down anything specific beyond a few vague comments out of context. Imagine Gates speaking out about Washington, Patton speaking out about Eisenhours, McClellan speaking out against Lincoln, MacArthur speaking about against Truman...wait a minute, this probably happened. Generals are all politicians. Once they are retired what else do they have to do but try and get elected? This makes them easy targets. Old soldiers at that rank rarely "fade away".


29 posted on 09/25/2006 5:59:33 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: nuconvert
How much is this costing taxpayers and how much time are these senators taking away from current business they should be taking care of?

According to John Stossel, in 2004, the total amount expended on the military (including the GWOT) was $454 Billion dollars. By the same token, the total amount expended on public education was $536 Billion dollars.

Which do you think was a better bargain?
30 posted on 09/25/2006 5:59:35 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Always Right
Democrats are sinking the discourse in the country to the lowest levels ever seen before.

We like to call that the Jerry Springer effect.
31 posted on 09/25/2006 6:00:37 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: maggief

Thank you. I suspected this was recycled news for the sake of the election.


32 posted on 09/25/2006 6:01:16 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: DustyMoment

And how much was spent on congressional/senatorial investigations that were a waste of time and the public wouldn't have approved if asked beforehand?


33 posted on 09/25/2006 6:01:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...and his head is so tiny...))
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To: nuconvert
How much is this costing taxpayers and how much time are these senators taking away from current business they should be taking care of?

Actually one might well pose the question of how much money are the taxpayers being saved by distracting the Senate from their busines as usual.

34 posted on 09/25/2006 6:04:17 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: TexKat

I imagine if active duty officers were to be critical...they would soon be retired anyway.


35 posted on 09/25/2006 6:05:28 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: DustyMoment
Which do you think was a better bargain?

Neither one has been what you would call a ringing success. But on a head-count basis education spending is going farter.

36 posted on 09/25/2006 6:06:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: maggief
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is not competent to lead our armed forces. First, his failure to build coalitions with our allies from what he dismissively called "old Europe" has imposed far greater demands and risks on our soldiers in Iraq than necessary.

Uh, isn't this the responsibility of the Secretary of State, not the Secretary of Defense? Seems their beef ought to be with Golden Boy, Colin Powell, not Rummy.

37 posted on 09/25/2006 6:06:39 AM PDT by DakotaRed (The legacy of the left, "Screw you, I got mine.")
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To: spintreebob
We had only 11 men on the field when we clearly needed more.

That would cost us five yards for too many men on the field. Since we're going with football analogies...

39 posted on 09/25/2006 6:08:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Made in USA
More ammo for Chavez and Ahmadinejad to mouth out at Bush.

Yeah. Like either one needed any reason to bad mouth Bush to begin with.

40 posted on 09/25/2006 6:08:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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