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Beretta Backers Beat Down the .45 Revival
Strategy Page ^ | 9/25/06 | n/a

Posted on 09/25/2006 10:46:11 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

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1 posted on 09/25/2006 10:46:13 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

I give you the winner.....


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2 posted on 09/25/2006 10:47:28 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Didn't "M" admonish James Bond for carrying a Beretta because it lacked stopping power?

Years ago, I fired a .45 auto Colt. Holy smokes, sounded and felt like a cannon going off!


3 posted on 09/25/2006 10:49:00 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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I guess no Sig Sauer P226 pistols for all. Oh wait, that's not American made... the Mark 23?


4 posted on 09/25/2006 10:51:40 AM PDT by wastedyears (Give me Liberty or give me DEATH)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Sooo...did they stop the new pistol...or not? It's unclear.


I still hear it may well be the new H&K USP variant that sort of looks like a futuristic 1911. John Farnam, however, predicts it will be a Glock...which would suit me fine.


5 posted on 09/25/2006 10:51:50 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule in a gunfight is to have a gun, more than one, if possible..bring a shotgun)
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To: RexBeach

Wasn't Bond's Beretta a .25? Pretty wimpy caliber.


6 posted on 09/25/2006 10:53:06 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Don't mess with Israel.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

who were the 45 cal contenders?

Is this a common ammo issue? One world one calibur?


7 posted on 09/25/2006 10:53:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RexBeach

The Beretta he was admonished for carrying was a .25 cal ... and he replaced it with the more powerful (!) .380 cal Walther ...


8 posted on 09/25/2006 10:53:52 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Why don't they just use these:


9 posted on 09/25/2006 10:54:53 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: longtermmemmory

The Glock, Sig Sauer P-220, and the HK USP I believe.

And there are glocks out there with external safeties. Iv'e seen photos of them.


10 posted on 09/25/2006 10:55:42 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule in a gunfight is to have a gun, more than one, if possible..bring a shotgun)
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To: Disambiguator

I thought is was a Walther PPK 9mm kurz (.380).

LLS


11 posted on 09/25/2006 10:55:42 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: RexBeach
Didn't "M" admonish James Bond for carrying a Beretta because it lacked stopping power?

No, I believe it was the Walther PPK (8mm).

12 posted on 09/25/2006 10:55:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Disambiguator

.32


13 posted on 09/25/2006 10:56:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Armedanddangerous

I am in the business and this is news to me. My understanding is both SOCOM and Big Army are in the process of selecting a .45 pistol to replace the 9mm. The article is a little light on facts. There is no doubt concerning the stopping power of a .45, just ask a Moro insurgent, ditto, Jap, German, Korean, and Vietnamese. I would like to know if the ammo stockpiles of 9mm have anything to do with it?


14 posted on 09/25/2006 10:57:00 AM PDT by tigtog
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To: longtermmemmory

The big problem is ammo. Nine Milimeter ball ammo is a notoriously poor one shot stopper. The 45 acp ball ammo is much better.


15 posted on 09/25/2006 10:57:18 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule in a gunfight is to have a gun, more than one, if possible..bring a shotgun)
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To: 1rudeboy

It was a 32acp model PPK


16 posted on 09/25/2006 10:57:51 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule in a gunfight is to have a gun, more than one, if possible..bring a shotgun)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I went on record criticizing the .380 as a defense round on another thread the other day. The responses were interesting. Some agreed, one disagreed.


17 posted on 09/25/2006 10:58:52 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Don't mess with Israel.)
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To: RexBeach

Just bought me a P45 Kahr 6+1, single stack magazine 4 inch barrel semi-automatic, double action only. Weighs 20 ounces. Put 100 rounds of .45 ball through it this past Saturday. Worked great, no mis-feeds, and once I got used to the trigger, was able to keep them in a four inch bull at 15 to 20 yards. .45 Cal is a good round.

As an aside, the Coast Guard appears to be changing from 9mm to 40 S&W.

Gunner


18 posted on 09/25/2006 10:59:14 AM PDT by weps4ret (Things the make you go; Hmmmmmmm?)
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To: Armedanddangerous

Still my favorite handgun, and the one I plan to carry someday. (No stopping-power lectures, please).


19 posted on 09/25/2006 10:59:44 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RexBeach

"Didn't "M" admonish James Bond for carrying a Beretta because it lacked stopping power?"

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Yes. M's assistant from Q branch said the department viewed 007's .25 cal. pistol as a "ladies' gun, sir".


20 posted on 09/25/2006 11:00:36 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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