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Former [UVA Football] Teammate: George Allen Stuffed Deer Head into Black Fmaily's Mailbox
WDBJ Channel 7 ^ | September 26, 2006

Posted on 09/26/2006 4:22:31 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

September 26, 2006

US Senator George Allen is responding to more allegations of racist behavior.

The latest comes from a former college teammate.

Former teammate Doctor Ken Shelton says, "Allen said he came to Virginia because he wanted to play football in a place where 'blacks knew their place.'"

"He used the N-word on a regular basis back then," said Shelton, who was in Salon.com.

During a hunting outing with Allen and another teammate, Shelton says Allen drove the three to a black neighborhood and "he proceeded to take the doe's head and stuff it into a mailbox."

Bishop Gerald Glenn says he used to see Allen as a Confederate flag waving redneck and has talked to the senator about his perception problem in the African American community.

While the two still disagree on key issues, Glenn says assassinating Allen's character does nothing for the voters of Virginia.

Allen told reporters today that he and Doctor Shelton weren't close and haven't spoken to each other in more than 30 years. Other teammates have released statements saying they've never heard Allen use racial slurs.

Allen's approval rating is down in the latest poll released today by SurveyUSA. The poll was taken last week, so the numbers do not reflect possible reaction to the Salon.com article.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: allen; duxgotthezot; hesbeenzottedjim; macaca247; slimefest; zotbait
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To: DuxFan4ever

Easy to see why you were banned in the first place.


81 posted on 09/26/2006 5:06:58 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Godebert; Harmless Teddy Bear

Gee, sorry, guys, but I didn't call anyone anything. And I kind of liked Allen until I heard these charges. I don't care how young he was---a serious candidate shouldn't have those reckless ignorant and hateful things in his history, even if he was doing it as "a joke". I was trying to objectively appraise the political picture and gamesmanship more than accusing anyone of being a KKK Robert Byrd bigot. I sense that Allen is a bit of an ass, whereas I sense that Mitt Romney is not. Mitt Romney at least has done a few things recently that deserve respect and show some backbone re: Islamic intimidation. The Dems have already spoken as to who it is they want eliminated from contention; I would not defend Allen just because the Dems have attacked him.
The charges might be false---let's see him defend himself, rather than the usual "that's not worthy or response,etc.".


82 posted on 09/26/2006 5:07:09 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: AmishDude
Oh, this has the "pubic hair on a coke can" thing written all over it. He'd heard it somewhere and thought we wouldn't find the reference.

Bingo! The Internet is a beautiful thing, ain't it? It's entirely possible that Allen and his pals did put a deer head in somebody's mailbox, as a juvenile prank that lots of people had done before and lots have done since. (I've never heard of it, but I have never lived in der hunting country either.) But Ken Shelton comes along and makes it out to be something sinister, which cannot be disproven because the other person who was there is conveniently dead.

83 posted on 09/26/2006 5:07:19 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Vote as if your life depends on it -- because it does!!!)
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To: AmishDude

Well I'll characterize it. I think it gets better every day. I've been here 8 years, and post everyday. It just doesn't get any better than that.

Now, hmmmm..... Where'd I put my life..........?????


84 posted on 09/26/2006 5:07:31 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: gopwinsin04

So, can Doctor Ken Shelton prove that he pulled his head out of his @$$ long enough to witness this claim?


85 posted on 09/26/2006 5:09:36 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: MNJohnnie; AmishDude
Relax MJ...

These idiots are just juvenile 'rats trolling the board for kicks. There's hundreds of 'em out there with sleeper accounts. I've noticed they tend to favor these Allen threads since, I suppose, they think they can gain some traction and "misdirect" the stupid Pubbies.

Right.

Like AmishDude said in his solid response to this troll:

...don't hit your head on the bottom of the bridge.

86 posted on 09/26/2006 5:09:46 PM PDT by liberty_lvr (Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.)
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To: MNJohnnie

The scum demonrats have plenty of company on FR, it would seem.


87 posted on 09/26/2006 5:09:52 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: sgtbono2002

Why haven't these fools come out before? It is not like Allen hasn't run for a national office in the past!!!!!


88 posted on 09/26/2006 5:10:43 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: advance_copy
--The funnier part is that Allen is still gonna mop the floor with that nitwit he's running against.--

Are you joking? Allen is falling fast and there's a strong chance he will lose. If he loses, there's a strong chance the GOP will lose the Senate, with other Senate GOP Senators struggling for reelection.

Can you say "Senate Majority Leader Reid" without vomiting?
89 posted on 09/26/2006 5:11:27 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: maica
--Senator Byrd is running for reelection in the very next state to Virginia and he used the n word on TV just a few years ago.--

You're absolutely right and the MSM won't report on it. A liberal President was credibly accused of rape and there wasn't a peep from NOW.
90 posted on 09/26/2006 5:13:54 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: gopwinsin04

Both Dr. Shelton and Bishop Glenn are admitted liberals, and ones wife is a liberal activist. Several of Allen's school mates have come out and said these charges are false, which shouldn't surprise anyone.

The libs are scared to death of Allen, if they didn't see him as a winner he wouldn't be a target.


91 posted on 09/26/2006 5:14:17 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: misterrob
Absolutely, he is a good Senator, and I am sure he would make a fine President.

But as I said last year, I prefer a ruthless SOB for Pres in 08, not a diplomat.
92 posted on 09/26/2006 5:14:42 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Dems_R_Losers
That is a fantastic find! Dr. Shelton has more and more to be suspicious of. He is associated with North Carolina Democrats, who are some of the most vicious and nasty people around. It certainly would not be the first time someone fabricated recollections about the past to damage someone politically.

Did you see Molly Henenberg on Brit Hume's newscast tonight? She called Shelton's house to get an interview but his wife said that "THEY told him not to talk to FOX."

Yup, he's in concert with SOMEONE and at this point I put nothing past any of 'em.

Watch the repeat of Hume at midnight if you missed it. The Allen piece should be on around 12:25 a.m. EST

93 posted on 09/26/2006 5:15:22 PM PDT by freespirited (Have you hugged a terrorist today? 1-800-JMC-CAIN)
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To: mariabush

Because this story is a new invention?


94 posted on 09/26/2006 5:15:31 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger
But that is the point - George Allen did NOT grow up in the South! He grew up in Southern California, hardly a bastion of racism. His mother was an olive-skinned Tunisian and his grandfather was Italian and was a prisoner of the Nazis. His father was a football coach who coached and hung out with many black athletes. It is part of the whole smear campaign to convince people that George Allen is some kind of congenital southern racist redneck. Nothing could be further from the truth.

This is a classic smear campaign, started deliberately by the Webb campaign through the ultra-sleazy Salon website, and then picked up verbatim by the leftists at the Associated Press and the Allen-hating Washington Post. I have contrasted especially the Post's running with this story without any additional reporting and sourcing, to their refusal in 1998 to run Michael Isikoff's scoop aboout Bill Clinton having an affair with an intern, because they didn't think it was sourced well enough!

95 posted on 09/26/2006 5:16:19 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Vote as if your life depends on it -- because it does!!!)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I am here to be educated, and , seriously, thank you.
I know all about smear campaigns, having lived through 8 years of the reign of Bubba Clinton. I wish though, once and for all, someone would throw the charges forcefully back into the faces of the accuser and expose them for what they are. Even though I may wind up favoring some other candidate over Allen, I have an absolutely bottomless appetite for exposing the thuggish Left, if indeed (as I am finding out)that's the pedigree of Allen's accuser.So once again, as with the others on this thread who have gently flamed me, I thank you.


96 posted on 09/26/2006 5:17:00 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: GianniV
Allen is falling fast and there's a strong chance he will lose

Seems your are still looking at polling data from July. It is September now. Try to catch up.

97 posted on 09/26/2006 5:17:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: sgtbono2002
Cant understand why a team mate would come out and say this crap unless he had a baaaad grudge against Allen or

...or he's a liberal.

98 posted on 09/26/2006 5:19:50 PM PDT by chiller (every time we call MSM "mainstream" we confirm their status. "Drive-by" is working nicely.)
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To: gopwinsin04

I don't believe he did that.


99 posted on 09/26/2006 5:21:12 PM PDT by sport
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To: supremedoctrine
---a serious candidate shouldn't have those reckless ignorant and hateful things in his history,

A serious poster should not immediately believe a proven liar who is on his third try to smear a candidate.

Extraordinary statements require extraordinary proof. Your reckless, ignorant and hateful posts not withstanding it is not up to Allen to defend himself or offer any kind of proof but it is up to the two time liar to produce the proof.

100 posted on 09/26/2006 5:21:48 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites)
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