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Crying Kids Pray Over George Bush At Jesus Camp - Film Documents Childrens' Summer At 'Jesus Camp'
WFSB.com, Hartford ^
| September 26, 2006
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Posted on 09/27/2006 6:43:02 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:45:23 AM PDT
by
misterrob
To: LurkedLongEnough
Fischer proudly compared her Bible camp to indoctrination of young boys by extremist Muslims. Except the Christian kids aren't going to KILL for their religion.
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:45:24 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: misterrob
Give me a camera and I'll find you a nutty religious group
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:45:53 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: LurkedLongEnough
Translation:
How dare the children pray for President Bush! Why, they ought to be praying for Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to seize control of the government!
To: LurkedLongEnough
"politics and faith have become inexorably intertwined in America." Right. America is BAD.
Other countries are better. They would never mix politics with relgion.
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:48:54 AM PDT
by
ladyjane
To: LurkedLongEnough
Fischer said that she plans to help promote the movie and that she is grateful for the national attention she's gotten from the movie and its controversy.
This woman either needs a lesson in PR 101, the law of unintended consequences, or both.
To: LurkedLongEnough
Obligatory graphic.
To: AppyPappy
"Except the Christian kids aren't going to KILL for their religion."
The following comment could be construed as a call for exactly that:
"It's no wonder with that kind of intense training in discipling (sic) that those young people are ready to kill themselves for the cause of Islam," Fischer said. "I want to see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I want to see them as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are over in Pakistan and in Israel and Palestine and all those different places.."
I'm all for good Christian education. I just hope Fischer isn't trying to out-Islam Islam.
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:50:37 AM PDT
by
LIConFem
(Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
To: LurkedLongEnough
I suppose the liberal America haters are concerned about the Evangelicals and their voting power, so they must attack the children now. This film is offensive in its premise, let alone the content. But because it isn't about Muslims, it will go unchallenged.
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:52:41 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
To: LurkedLongEnough
Let's see... One "was raised Catholic" that means she's gotten too superior for the Faith of her parents. The other one "is Jewish." I'd like to know what that means. Most of the Jewish folks I know (Reformed Jews)aren't religious at all, and I would argue that being anything less than Conservative Jewish, isn't being in a religion at all. Oh, yeah, these two are completely neutral...
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:52:50 AM PDT
by
old and tired
(Run Swannie, run!)
To: LurkedLongEnough
Sick of these f'ing cowards with their cheap shot hatchet jobs.
So when are these two brave filmmakers going to take their cameras into the madrassas of Waziristan, where children are praying for the beheading of George W. Bush and the destruction of the USA?
To: LurkedLongEnough
The film follows Midwestern children Rachael, now 10, Levi, now 13, and Tory, now 11, who attended Fischer's Bible camp in Devils Lake, N.D. Let me guess....they picked the location.
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:55:28 AM PDT
by
Niteranger68
(I gigged your peace frog.)
To: LIConFem
You notice she didn't say they were going to kill for their religion. Every Christian should be ready to lay down his life...because he will.
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:56:45 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: LIConFem
I'm all for good Christian education. I just hope Fischer isn't trying to out-Islam Islam. I'm not suprised at the existence of this radical, kook-fringe Christianity. For people like this, religion is incidental to the deeper psychological pathologies. They are dangerous, and need to be shut down because what they are doing here is truly child abuse.
At the same time, I am concerned that kook fringe groups like this will define Evangelical Christianity. The last thing Christians need is for Jesus Camp to be the image the world takes away from evangelical youth ministry. As someone who has worked in Christian camps through college, I can emphasize that the hatred and intolerance spewed on the trailer is not what we taught there.
There's also the possiblity - which I discount, but it should be stated - that the footage may be manipulated via editing and selective quotations of the kids to make the camp, and by extension, Christians, look far worse than it actually is.
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posted on
09/27/2006 6:57:37 AM PDT
by
jude24
("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
To: LurkedLongEnough
I saw this movie reviewed in the NYT Friday movies section. Of course the reviewer was delighted that they could catch the "Christians" gathering up their 'Army'.
I don't like manipulation of kids, no matter what religion it is. You can introduce the love of God and the fact of Jesus as your personal Savior without going overboard about it. It's more likely to stick when done gently, anyway.
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posted on
09/27/2006 7:00:15 AM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: jude24
It does look really bad, all by itself. A segment on GMA just now was devoted to it. The kids were scary in their intensity.
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posted on
09/27/2006 7:02:43 AM PDT
by
Rte66
To: LIConFem
You need a reading comprehension course.
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posted on
09/27/2006 7:03:59 AM PDT
by
Balding_Eagle
(God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
To: jude24
I can back you up on that. I have some involvement with a Christian Camp as a bus driver and a few other things. Behaviour like portrayed in thsi film is counter to the reality of Christian camps.
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posted on
09/27/2006 7:06:04 AM PDT
by
cyclotic
(Support Cub Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
To: Rte66
I will have to watch the film when it comes out in general release.
If it is what I - and I think you - suspect it will be, perhaps it should be required viewing for all people involved in youth ministry. A big "don't-do-this" advertisement.
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posted on
09/27/2006 7:06:04 AM PDT
by
jude24
("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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