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1 posted on 09/27/2006 6:43:03 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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WTF???


2 posted on 09/27/2006 6:45:23 AM PDT by misterrob
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Fischer proudly compared her Bible camp to indoctrination of young boys by extremist Muslims.

Except the Christian kids aren't going to KILL for their religion.

3 posted on 09/27/2006 6:45:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Translation:

How dare the children pray for President Bush! Why, they ought to be praying for Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to seize control of the government!

5 posted on 09/27/2006 6:48:34 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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"politics and faith have become inexorably intertwined in America."

Right. America is BAD.

Other countries are better. They would never mix politics with relgion.

6 posted on 09/27/2006 6:48:54 AM PDT by ladyjane
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Fischer said that she plans to help promote the movie and that she is grateful for the national attention she's gotten from the movie and its controversy.

This woman either needs a lesson in PR 101, the law of unintended consequences, or both.
7 posted on 09/27/2006 6:49:51 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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Obligatory graphic.

8 posted on 09/27/2006 6:50:17 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I suppose the liberal America haters are concerned about the Evangelicals and their voting power, so they must attack the children now. This film is offensive in its premise, let alone the content. But because it isn't about Muslims, it will go unchallenged.


10 posted on 09/27/2006 6:52:41 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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Let's see... One "was raised Catholic" that means she's gotten too superior for the Faith of her parents. The other one "is Jewish." I'd like to know what that means. Most of the Jewish folks I know (Reformed Jews)aren't religious at all, and I would argue that being anything less than Conservative Jewish, isn't being in a religion at all. Oh, yeah, these two are completely neutral...


11 posted on 09/27/2006 6:52:50 AM PDT by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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Sick of these f'ing cowards with their cheap shot hatchet jobs.

So when are these two brave filmmakers going to take their cameras into the madrassas of Waziristan, where children are praying for the beheading of George W. Bush and the destruction of the USA?


12 posted on 09/27/2006 6:55:21 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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The film follows Midwestern children Rachael, now 10, Levi, now 13, and Tory, now 11, who attended Fischer's Bible camp in Devils Lake, N.D.

Let me guess....they picked the location.

13 posted on 09/27/2006 6:55:28 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I gigged your peace frog.)
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I saw this movie reviewed in the NYT Friday movies section. Of course the reviewer was delighted that they could catch the "Christians" gathering up their 'Army'.

I don't like manipulation of kids, no matter what religion it is. You can introduce the love of God and the fact of Jesus as your personal Savior without going overboard about it. It's more likely to stick when done gently, anyway.

16 posted on 09/27/2006 7:00:15 AM PDT by SuziQ
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cried as they pleaded for an end to abortion,

The nerve of them! How dare those children lament the bloody slaughter of one-third of their generation?!?!?!

34 posted on 09/27/2006 7:28:11 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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So what is this? A way to show Christians as 'radical' as Muslims?


37 posted on 09/27/2006 7:48:10 AM PDT by sandbar
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If only they shouted Allah Akbar while strapping bomb belts to themselves...........


38 posted on 09/27/2006 7:49:52 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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LOL, go Christians go!


43 posted on 09/27/2006 7:59:35 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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a Bible camp in Devil's Lake? How funny!
44 posted on 09/27/2006 8:07:17 AM PDT by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality)
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Haven't seen the film, probably won't.

But weeping is normal, everyday stuff in pentacostal worship. If you come from a more staid background, it can be a bit off-putting, but there is nothing sinister about it.

In a world in which Islam is on the advance, even secular christians and jews may be called upon to lay down their lives. We have soldiers laying down their lives right now, every day of the week. If you expect to be a missionary these days, especially in any country where Islam is widespread, you have to face the reality of your own physical mortality.

This may not be normal subject of conversation around the dinner table, but in any discussion with would-be missionaries, you may as well get it right out in the open. Every cop, every fireman, every soldier knows his life is potentially forfeit. Every missionary knows the same thing.


47 posted on 09/27/2006 8:27:54 AM PDT by marron
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In the first place, there is no (sic) about the way the word "discipling" is used here: ""It's no wonder with that kind of intense training in discipling (sic) ... ."

Secondly, the church has always operated in an unseen-by-the-unbelievers manner when pressed, legislated against, such as it has been in the USA for decades. These youth are emerging from behind the scenes but God, who always keeps a remnant for Himself, releases such as these when the time is right for His purposes. Many Christian youth in America have been laboring and praying to usher in this revival -- from the secret place of God's presence, in prayer.

He raises up leaders and does indeed bring revival, which, as the article says, IS happening in America right now. The beginnings of it are here. The youth movement Fischer describes is a big part of it. No age group has been more oppressed by society than our youth; what better place to light a fire than in youth who see their classmates having babies ripped out of their teenage bodies, who see their friends' lives ruined by parental abuse, neglect, abandonment, who see their friends committing suicide in record numbers? God uses the foolish things of this world to confound and humble the "wise" and proud. Many Americans consider our youth to be foolish, but when filled with the power of the Living God that raised Christ from the dead, these "foolish" youth are going to stand the world as we know it on its head. God bless them! This is normal Christianity being restored. What we've seen all our lives, most of us, is a weakened Church that lacks the faith of the first Christians (read the Book of Acts in the New Testament for examples). God is restoring a people to their first love (of Him).

To all who want to flame me, it's useless. I love the Lord, I've spent decades waiting for this fanning into flames that is upon us, and I know there will be countless souls swept into God's eternal Kingdom because of it. People may not like the way the Lord God of Israel and all believers does things, but He is God and I am not stupid enough to argue with Him about His methods. People who don't see this for what it is shouldn't flame me for rejoicing at what they don't understand. FWIW: people who have read my postings since 1998 when I signed onto FR know I love God and am not a freaked out member of the fringe and loony types.

God bless these youth and all who lead them. The Old Testament even prophesied that "a little child shall lead them," and when the older folks reject the way God moves and works with youth, who Jesus said embody the type of faith needed to become born again, then the older folks need to adjust their thinking.


56 posted on 09/27/2006 5:28:30 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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In the film, the children cheered when asked if they'd be willing to give up their lives for Jesus, prayed over a cardboard cutout of President George W. Bush and cried as they pleaded for an end to abortion, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Nothing wrong with that.

The paper said that one of the children is home-schooled by a mother who teaches that "science doesn't prove anything

Maybe in the sense that science presupposes philosophical principles. And if she means it as a Creationist, that's her and her family's business.

Anyway, this sounds like a leftist hatchet job, and this is coming from a Catholic.

67 posted on 09/28/2006 12:30:20 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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"It's no wonder with that kind of intense training in discipling (sic) that those young people are ready to kill themselves for the cause of Islam," Fischer said.

Another lefty leap. They can't make a movie about Christians without comparing them to terrorists.

68 posted on 09/28/2006 12:32:41 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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