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To: steve-b; jude24; LIConFem; All
Deeper psychological pathologies?

Funny, I think that is liberalism's general view of christianity.

Child Abuse?

Well, I guess only certain kinds of learning should be allowed in your perfect worlds. Public schools, pc dogma, slippery slope socialism. Popular culture is the opiate of the people and will, left unchecked, lead us to become that moral and economic utopia known as Europe.

LIConFem, you suggest people didn't read your comments accurately. Actually, in reading this thread, your insinuation is clear. What is wrong with Christians being serious christians (in the manner they think is appropriate). NO ONE suggests killing anyone in any shape or form. NO ONE suggests harming anyone. (I have't seen the movie - but based on the clip you innacurately described as evidence of hatred.)

I WILL NOT DENOUNCE KIDS GOING TO A CAMP AND CRYING OVER THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS. THEY THINK SALVATION AND JESUS IS THE ANSWER. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. They might be right. Do you know?

On the other hand, maybe they should just be "good little boys and girls" and eat the images of sex, global warming (you tried watching a kids movie lately without that latent message in it?), instant gratification, and moral relativity they get bombarded with. A generation of spoiled, unmotivated, empty souls crying out for their government to save them from the evils of capitalism, the United States, and the white man.

That some people have the cojones to step up and say "no more" or "I want to change this" isn't a pathology. People with passion and convictions not established by ABC News, a 1950s philosopher, the Rolling Stones, Jon Stewart, or TV sitcoms shouldn't be judged and condemned. Christian-lite may make some of you feel more at ease with your country club or coffee house friends. As for me, I'm glad to know some people, including children, take matters of such importance seriously and with actual conviction.

71 posted on 09/28/2006 1:10:25 PM PDT by hoyaloya
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To: hoyaloya
I WILL NOT DENOUNCE KIDS GOING TO A CAMP AND CRYING OVER THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS. THEY THINK SALVATION AND JESUS IS THE ANSWER. I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

As long as we're talking only about "crying over the world's problems," I agree 100%. We live in a screwed up world, and young people who understand that can only be an asset. A look at the trailer, however, shows a far more disturbing brand of Christianity - one with a militaristic bent. The militaristic bent is indicative of deeper pyschological pathologies.

Do try to understand - I am not saying that Christianity is a psychological pathology. I am unquestionably Christian. What I am saying is that the people runnng this camp appear to be psychologically disturbed, and their manipulation of the children appears to be blatant child abuse.

On the other hand, maybe they should just be "good little boys and girls" and eat the images of sex, [] instant gratification, and moral relativity they get bombarded with.

Just who has suggested this? Certainly not I, nor anyone else I have seen on the thread.

images of sex, global warming ..., instant gratification, and moral relativity

One of these things is not like the others.

Christian-lite may make some of you feel more at ease with your country club or coffee house friends.

You really don't know jack-squat about me, do you?

72 posted on 09/28/2006 1:41:37 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: hoyaloya
"I have't seen the movie - but based on the clip you innacurately described as evidence of hatred."

I never described anything as evidence of hatred. You read what you wanted to read. You went looking for Christian bashing and found it... even though it didn't exist.

"I WILL NOT DENOUNCE KIDS GOING TO A CAMP AND CRYING OVER THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS. THEY THINK SALVATION AND JESUS IS THE ANSWER. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. They might be right. Do you know? "

No, I don't. And neither do you. I never denounced anything or anyone, nor do I have any problem with Christian children being true to their faith and pondering the world's problems, whether it's at home, in church, in a Christian camp or even on a street corner, for that matter. But unless you know this group, you have no idea what their motivation and purpose is.

There are crazy people in this world, and unfortunately, a few call themselves Christians. The quote that I cited could be intrepeted in several different ways. In my post, I expressed a hope that it wasn't evidence of anything sinister. But again, you read what you wanted to read.
77 posted on 09/29/2006 4:11:49 AM PDT by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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