Dick Armey Slams Dr. James Dobson

Newsmax ^ | 9/29/06 | Newsmax Staff

[dmw]

"I've considered voting for a Democratic Congressional candidate. I'm not going to do it this year, but we'll see how things go in the next few years...."

You guys are a dime a dozen around here lately. Just go over to dummyland and get it over with. Your empty threats to vote for democrats is getting pathetic. Just do it already!

[Fiji Hill]

I am curious about the timing of Armey's remarks. We are currently undergoing what seems to be a coordinated attack on the religious right. Over the past several months, a number of books by noted authors attacking conservative Christians have appeared, including Conservatives Without Conscience by John Dean, American Theocracy by Kevin Phillips, and God's Politics by Jim Wallis. Meanwhile, a number of "progressive" Christian groups have suddenly popped up. Is Armey permitting himself to be a useful idiot for the opponents of the Christian right?

[colorado tanker]

I'm having a little trouble understanding why one can't be both a social conservative and a small government Republican.

[linda_22003]

Since Armey doesn't have a seat to defend, do you think the Republicans are using him to send a signal of "it's ok to vote Republican, we're not really run by those dreadful religious types" ?

[misterrob]

Reagan was a Goldwater type of conservative. Limited government, less taxes and regulation, pro business and strong national defense. Against the idea of abortion, pro family and certainly a values guy but not if it meant expanding government.

Give me one of those any day of the week.

[EASYACES]

What did Hannity do?

[truthandlife]

Remember, follow the money trail:

Conservative favorites to join ACLU (11/24/02)

Excerpt:

The elder George Bush won the presidency against Michael Dukakis in 1988 in part by suggesting it was beyond-the-pale liberal to be "a card-carrying member" of the American Civil Liberties Union now the group is signing on as consultants two of the most flamboyant conservative Republicans in Congress.

But now the group is signing on as consultants two of the most flamboyant conservative Republicans in Congress:

* Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia, who was defeated in a primary election this year, called for President Clinton's impeachment before the Lewinsky affair was known. The American Conservative Union, which ranks members of Congress according to how they vote on issues important to conservatives, has given Barr a 100% rating.

* House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas, who is retiring, has skirmished with Democrats in often acid terms. In 1994, he told them that "your president is just not that important for us." His ACU rating is 97%.

[redgolum]

Full court press.

Wander in to a local bookstore like Barnes and Noble and see what the newest "Religion" books are. There has been a flurry of books about how "we need to fight those Christocrats".

[Obadiah]

Good post. Perhaps Mr. Armey would like to respond to Lincoln Chaffee's decision to hold up John Bolton's nomination after Republican pulled his fat from the fire. Is that the kind of Republican Mr. Armey apparently now wants to court? Uh, huh. Good luck with that. Republicans like Mr. Armey should never again come before these religious folks and beg and plead for their votes at election time. Be careful what you wish for Mr. Armey. Many of these conservative would be happy to sit out an election or two while you figure out how to bring in all those moderates out there. (...shaking the dust off my sandals).

[Tailgunner Joe]

Because social conservatives want "Big Government" to prevent abortion and "mercy killing."

[The Blitherer]

Thanks Dr. Dobson. Run the mind-your-own-business conservatives off and the Republican Party will go into eclipse for a generation. Moron.

Christians are very "mind your own business" until you start killing helpless people. Incidently, Dobson is running people off because he votes what he feels is right. Armey is running people off because he is calling people names and making unsubstantiated accusations. There is a difference.

[Reagan79]

I worked on Capital Hill for awhile after college. I never really spread this around because I never felt a need to run a guy down. But he has lost it. Dick Armey was a drunk, you could smell the liquor on him at all hours of the day. He was tanked many times when he was speaking on the House floor, in fact most of the time. He was just a conceited moody drunk, and it showed.

[TommyDale]

Last night he endorsed Rudy Giuliani, ignoring the fact that he is pro abortion, pro gun-control (actually confiscation), in favor of illegal immigration/invasion/amnesty, higher taxes, and homesexual marriages. I would say Hannity pushed a few conservatives' overboard.

[truthandlife]

So that is why it always sounded like he was slurring his words. Interesting and sad.

[ArGee]

But, let's not try to confuse those groups with the limited government, low tax bloc.

Why does the limited government, low tax block deserve a place at the table more than the people you don't like?

All of politics is about using the power of pursuasion to establish the values you believe best as the values the nation follows. Then you compromise so you can at least keep things tolerable.

As far as I know there is no single "conservative Christian manefesto" and for the most part no desire on the part of conservative Christians to force people to choose.

In fact, the reverse is true. Except in the case of abortion, which the opposed see as murder in cold blood, what the conservative Christians want is to keep private immorality out of the public policy arena. Which does more to force a morality on someone - refusing to allow homosexals who already live together to call themselves spouses or demanding that everyone accept them as such?

Shalom.

[misterrob]

Conservatives who favor limited government will, at times, hold positions similar to those of the ACLU. Free speach and privacy being two of them.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

You guys are a dime a dozen around here lately. Just go over to dummyland and get it over with. Your empty threats to vote for democrats is getting pathetic. Just do it already!

I can't bring myself to do it, as long as the Democratic Party would just as soon leave us defenseless to the Muslim fanatics. At the moment, though, that and low taxes are the only things keeping me in the GOP.

But it is to the point where I can't bring myself to vote for Katherine Harris. Having looked at the third party candidates, I'm probably going to write myself in just to so I can say I voted.

[Guenevere]

I would like to add a hearty 'ditto' to your excellent post.

Besides, I'm too upset & too emotional to give my own reply, and yours says it best!!

Thanks!

Shame on Armey!

[redgolum]

Hannity's biggest fan is himself. Doesn't surprise me though.