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A big believer, bettor in ethanol (Minnesota)
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | 9/26/06 | David Joles

Posted on 09/27/2006 2:18:41 PM PDT by Kimmers

Since 1988, Ron Fagen's firm has built about two-thirds of the U.S. capacity. The Minnesotan invested in plants, too, and has a huge stake in the industry.

Ron Fagen, CEO of Fagen Inc.

Ethanol wasn't on Fagen's radar until 1988, when his firm added ethanol-making equipment to the Minnesota Corn Processors' wet mill in Marshall -- the oldest operating corn ethanol plant in Minnesota.

Throughout the 1990s, Minnesota was the cradle of the ethanol industry under a state subsidy program that virtually guaranteed banks wouldn't lose money if they financed an ethanol plant. Still, growth was slow and the plants were small, with Fagen building one ethanol plant every two to three years.

For Fagen, the plants in such places as Watertown, S.D., and Monroe, Wis., were more than just jobs. He and his wife, Diane, the human resources director for Fagen Inc., were early believers in ethanol as an economic engine for rural America and a patriotic alternative to foreign oil. One of Fagen's pet sayings is, "We're making fuel, and it's not coming from the Middle East."

The Fagens invested in almost every plant they built. In those early days farmer groups might spend up to five years trying to raise money for an ethanol plant, and an investment by the Fagens was often key to obtaining bank financing.

"Our bonding companies thought we were nuts," Fagen said. "They scolded us for making high-risk investments."

As recently as 1996, the Fagens personally guaranteed repayment of $2 million in bank loans to keep an ethanol project on track in Winthrop, Minn. They sold shares in some plants, but only as a means to help finance more projects. "We kind of gambled our profit," Fagen said. "I always felt it would pay out, but there were some sweaty times."

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: energy; ethanol; ethanolplants
This is a great story about a small town guy making it big. His world headquarters is located in the town that a grew up in, Granite Falls MN. He has contributed a lot to the economy of this small rural town.
1 posted on 09/27/2006 2:18:41 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Uncledave

Ping.


2 posted on 09/27/2006 2:19:38 PM PDT by MrEdd (Always look on the bright side of life.)
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To: Kimmers
I, mistakenly, thought they were talking about Frosbite Falls, MN.


3 posted on 09/27/2006 2:27:15 PM PDT by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: capt. norm

LOL....thanks


4 posted on 09/27/2006 2:29:13 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: RedStateRocker; Dementon; eraser2005; Calpernia; DTogo; Maelstrom; Yehuda; babble-on; ...
Renewable Energy Ping

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5 posted on 09/27/2006 3:22:37 PM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Kimmers
Good Luck Ron Fagan...
6 posted on 09/27/2006 4:52:32 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: Kimmers

I'm for free enterprise and success, I like small towns, but I'm not sold on the benefits of ethanol. He might want to consider doing methane digesters as well.

(Monroe Wisconsin--mentioned in the article--already has a brewery. They make beer. Much more drinkable than ethanol.)


7 posted on 09/27/2006 5:08:03 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Kimmers

How much Diesel fuel does it take to make a gallon of Ethanol?


8 posted on 09/27/2006 5:12:22 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring

No shortage of water on the Mississippi river!


9 posted on 09/27/2006 5:18:31 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Methane digesters? I think there's huge potential in those.

Several large-scale dairy and hog producers in Minnesota needed a better way to dispose of manure and a number of 'em built digesters.

They produce more than enough energy to power their farms and businesses - and even sell excess energy to local power coops.

BTW, isn't Huber beer produced in Monroe?


10 posted on 09/27/2006 6:25:57 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve; Diana in Wisconsin

It used to be. I think the brewery does small batch brewing for small labels. I think that Berghof beer was brewed there, and some small label that avertised in the Chicago area using a brewmaster with a german sounding accent.

When I lived in Chicao we took a trip to visit some of my wife's relatives in Iowa. Highway Chicago to Rockford, backroads after that. Beautiful drive. Totally rural. Monroe--a small town--was the bigest town between Beloit and Dubuque everywhere else rolling hills, corn, and farms. (Travelogue off)


11 posted on 09/28/2006 7:37:46 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
I'm for free enterprise and success

Ethanol and free enterprise are two words that don't belong in the same sentence. There would be no ethanol industry if not for massive government subsidies.

And you're right to be skeptical about the benefits of the substance. It's garbage.

12 posted on 09/28/2006 11:04:44 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
The benefit in ethanol production seems mainly directed to Agribusiness and farmers and retailers. Ethanol contains less power than gas with a resulting reduction in mileage for about the same cost. From what I have read you about a gallon of gas to create a roughly equivalent amount of ethanol.

On the other hand, methane digesters make sense. Contents of the manure pile and holding pond are free. Make methane, make power and heat for your hog operation, sell any surplus to the local power grid, take the residue and spread it on your fields as fertilizer to help raise corn or barley for beer, or if you must distill, bourbon, whiskey, or vodka. ( "New Ulm Sour Mash Bourbon", aged in birch barrels!)
13 posted on 09/28/2006 4:35:33 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
On the other hand, methane digesters make sense. Contents of the manure pile and holding pond are free.

If they really are free, then I'd agree with you. I'm not an expert on this, but it would seem that manure does have an alternative use as fertilizer. If by using manure to make power we are diveriting it from use fertilizer, then the energy it produces comes at the expense of greater soil depletion. Am I way off base in this analysis?

14 posted on 09/28/2006 5:33:18 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity; Diana in Wisconsin

Oh for goodness sakes, have some fun with this! We're talking about animal poop!

You have to expend energy to move the cow patties or swine excretia to the digester! That takes either some kind of gas run auger or hundreds of illegals fed with bean burritos to clean your stables, dairy shed, holding pond, or rabbit cage. Whether it goes on your field or to digester you expend the energy so it's energy you would expend in any case. (A farmer needs to clean cow plop from the barn regularly-it builds up fast!)

Manure goes into the digester as fertilizer, it comes out fertilizer. The cellulose and starches are digested by the bacteria, so there is probably a reduction in the bulk. When you clean out the digester, take what is left and and recycle it on your fields.


15 posted on 09/28/2006 5:59:03 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Even the universe, in the end, will expand forever, into the darkness and its eventual heat death...)
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To: curiosity
Ethanol plants don't get subsidies, at least not federal subsidies. The federal government's ethanol subsidies go to the blenders. The farmers growing the corn get subsidies though, but no more than they would get if they were growing corn for use as animal feed or for human consumption. I bet ethanol works out fine in the future as a supplement to our automotive fuel supply, without subsidies, especially if cellulosic ethanol works out as planned.
16 posted on 09/28/2006 6:58:16 PM PDT by TKDietz (")
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Manure goes into the digester as fertilizer, it comes out fertilizer. The cellulose and starches are digested by the bacteria, so there is probably a reduction in the bulk. When you clean out the digester, take what is left and and recycle it on your fields.

I suppose the question then is how much valuable fertilizer gets consumed by the digester. It seems, from what you're saying, that most of the valuable nutrients stay after the process od done, since all that gets consumed is cellulose and starches. If that's true, then indeed it is free energy. I'll have to read up more on that. Thanks for your comments!

17 posted on 09/28/2006 7:46:27 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: TKDietz
Ethanol plants don't get subsidies, at least not federal subsidies.

No, but their customers do, which amounts to the same thing. If not for the blenders' subsidies for buying ethanol, no one would buy it, and all those ethanol plants would be out of business.

18 posted on 09/28/2006 8:02:10 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
I don't think so. Ethanol is relatively cheap to make and it could be sold a lot cheaper than it is while still being profitable for producers. I think it's time to phase out the subsidies and reduce the tariffs on foreign ethanol. That will only provide incentive for cutting production costs even further.
19 posted on 09/28/2006 8:29:58 PM PDT by TKDietz (")
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