CA: Bill would give gay couples right to file taxes as married couples - SB 1827

Mercury News ^ | 9/27/06 | Mark Schwanhausser

[Hong Kong Expat]

That's why we have to allow gay marriage.

It's one thing to join up with a friend to get a discout on taxes, there's no risk. But in a marriage, you are putting your 401(k), house, investments and on the line.

Or we can just get rid of the benefit for married couples.

[Loud Mime]

I love your personal page!

[goodnesswins]

Ummm....let's do the math...loud.....you live for 85 years and pay your taxes, and have no children.....let's say you pay, oh, $100K in taxes in 50 years of that time.....just for fun.

A "family" of a mom and dad, and two kids lives for, oh, say, 40 of your 80 years, and 3 of them pays, oh, let's say, $80K in taxes each....let's see, that's $240K in taxes, in 40 years....NOW....who's paying for what? And, just whom do you think will take care of , invent, and maintain all the stuff YOU like? You can't tell me you're going to build your own car, your own furniture, your own ...well, you get my picture.

[zendari]

I'm sure clever people will figure out how to abuse this. As is the case with many tax laws.

[bordergal]

If you look at children as merely drains on the system, you'd be right.

But those families are raising your future fellow citizens, and it ain't cheap.

Or would you prefer to replace American procreation with Muslim immigration?

[FlingWingFlyer]

...to give a landmark tax victory to gay rights activists...

Nothing like a good old "tax victory." Especially if you're gay. This is earth-shattering news.

[Myrddin]

I have a wife and 3 sons, but I've had to file my W4 as single with no exemptions for many years to ensure that the payroll department takes out enough to compensate for the under witholding that happens at my wife's place of business. It sucks to have $4,000 owed to the feds in April. Once was enough.

[SmoothTalker]

"I fail to see why people should pay fewer taxes because they are married or, more importantly, if they have children.
"

I agree. I don't think martial status should have anything to do with taxiation. The rates should be the same for everyone. It isn't the role of the government to promote or discourage marriage.

[SmoothTalker]

"Or would you prefer to replace American procreation with Muslim immigration?"

We are already replacing it with Mexican immigration. Go to just about any public elementary school in North Carolina. Damn near every kid in K-3 is named Jose or Miguel.

[Loud Mime]

Neil Boortz has the right idea. With the fair tax you can plan on things without any surprises.

[Myrddin]

The figures used for the Fair Tax derive a significant amount of the "revenue" from sales to the government. Where does the government get money the money to make those purchases and supply that revenue? It's not magic. It's smoke and mirrors. That revenue doesn't exist, but there will still be a demand for that revenue. How will that be solved? Simple. Find a bunch of new things to tax and/or raise the rates. The Fair Tax people always tap dance around this issue, but never seem to have an answer.

People who rent a property are going to see the Fair Tax added to the monthly rent. It's a taxable service. Get a hair cut...that's a taxable service too. Figuring out how to price meals at a restaurant should be fun too. Labor+materials+profit+"Fair Tax".

Frankly, I think the Winter Olympics will be hosted in hell before the Fair Tax has a chance of being enacted.

[little jeremiah]

HA list.

I hate the word "resonates".

[little jeremiah]

Thanks, cowgirl, for your efforts to inform people about the "gay" agenda in CA.

[fwdude]

Looks like Arnold has a lot of vetoing to do.

Don't hold your breath. Arnold will veto just enough leftist bills to receive the back slap of key conservatives for political expedience. Eventually, he'll sign them all into law. It's axiomatic that a liberal will take you to hell in a handbasket in an instant, but a moderate will get you there a little at a time.

[HeartOfDixie56]

Hi Sunvalley,

I'm really new here and just been browsing through everything I can. I've never been to California (actually haven't traveled much at all, so guess that's no big deal) so really don't have much of a viewpoint on what that state does, but I have a question.

I've heard it said many many many many times and I keep trying my best to understand it about this 'family.. thing of the past'... and I just can't put my finger on it and when I ask my friends, they just look at me like I'm crazy.

Help an old guy but new here to understand your post, please? Don't get me wrong, I'm against homosexuals (based on scriptures) actually more against the sin than the person, but I've never come to any conclusions that made sense to me about how allowing gays to form some kind of contractual bond that is recognized at the state/federal level has any direct impact on my family or the families around me.

[calcowgirl]

Thanks, cowgirl, for your efforts to

You're welcome. Thanks for the 'thanks'! :-)

Good news today--he vetoed AB 606 and SB 1056, two bad ones. I'm still looking though the bills passed/vetoed today so I'm not sure if there is any more action. I haven't seen any articles yet, but I'm sure they will get posted.