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Judge: Consciousness is key to a painless execution
ap on Riverside Press Enterprise ^ | 9/29/06 | David Kravets - ap

Posted on 09/29/2006 1:56:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: MHGinTN

I was being sarcastic, but no, of course not.


21 posted on 09/29/2006 2:35:12 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: NormsRevenge

So, whack him in the back of the head with a sledgehammer when he is not expecting it. Appropriate execution and lack of conciousness in one fell swoop.


22 posted on 09/29/2006 2:35:16 PM PDT by LexBaird (Another member of the Bush/Halliburton/Zionist/CIA/NWO/Illuminati conspiracy for global domination!)
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To: NormsRevenge
If this idiot is talking about full anesthesia then we have a problem. I'm in medicine, allow me to explain.

A fully anesthetized patient is more likely than not to aspirate if he has had a meal anywhere from 4 to 6 hours prior to the "procedure". Upon aspiration of the vomitus from the stomach he would drown in his own vomit. This is fine with me but this bleeding heart judge would have a hissy fit if that happened. Now, considering that the condemned has a last meal before execution this is highly likely.

Next, we have to fix the aspiration problem. Do we, a) deny the scumbag his last meal (cruel and unusual punishment)or, b) proceed with the execution a good 6 hours after the last meal, or maybe 8 hours, just to be "safe".

Consider that he may aspirate under the anesthesia anyway. Should we stop and resuscitate him and then proceed with the execution. I'm sure this dirtbag judge would say yes.

At what point, and who decides that point, painless wise, do we get to hammer in the KCL and stop this mad dog's heart.

I've always been in favor of eliminating all the other drugs and just hammering in the KCL (Potassium Chloride) in about one hundred times the lethal dose bolus fashion. Of course there will be a huge convulsion and plenty of urine and feces to clean up, and oh yes, there will be tremendous pain, but it won't last 5 seconds. Dirtnap for the dirtbag with a little painful justice to go along, but only 5 seconds. Works for me!

23 posted on 09/29/2006 2:45:29 PM PDT by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: cgk

No normal person would! Makes you wonder how democrats keep voting into office politicians who see nothing wrong with such evil under the demonic deception of 'women's choice'.


24 posted on 09/29/2006 2:46:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: cgk
"After all, that is already an accepted form of execution, and we are told: painless!"

Heck...if you're Terri Schiavo, a combination of dehydration and starvation are considered 'euphoric'!

25 posted on 09/29/2006 2:47:08 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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every lib/dem judge is always worried about those pesky perp rights...how about just once worrying about the denied rights of the victims....oh wait...that does not fit the lib/dem/aclu platform...it is all about those perps...screw the victims!.....I don't give a rats ass if it is painful or not....rabid dogs are put down....these animals should be put down as well...and the faster the better!


26 posted on 09/29/2006 2:52:37 PM PDT by hnj_00
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To: MHGinTN
Makes you wonder how democrats keep voting into office politicians who see nothing wrong with such evil under the demonic deception of 'women's choice'.

Because doing so justifies their own selfish decisions in their own lives? My opinion of course.

27 posted on 09/29/2006 3:00:15 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think they should go out screaming in terror. That's something they could appreciate.


28 posted on 09/29/2006 3:26:14 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: NormsRevenge
What have we come to if a federal judge is worried that execution is cruel or inhumane? The answer is obviously yes.

That is the point of a lethal execution. It is, by definition, inhumane. By reasoned purpose, it ends the humanity of the subject. By any form of logic, state ordered, lethal execution of a living human being is cruel. By reasoned judgment, that cruelty is justified by the circumstances of the finding.

No government system designed to intercede into individual actions is perfect. People will be wrongly executed. It is the responsibility of the society to weigh the risks against the benefits when deciding the appropriateness of the remedy. The personal circumstances of the process are not part of that equation.

The 400 pound, moral gorilla that no one wants to talk about is the obvious economies of a prompt execution of sentences decided by prudent people and carried out in compliance with the codified traditions of a majority of that society. Decisions that linger, like fresh food, become offensive and unpalatable with age.

It is the goal of the liberal to delay those decisions until even a prudent man realizes that the delays have rendered the object of the decision, individual and community deterrence, worthless. If a death warrant was determined to be justified by reasoned judgment after fair presentation and review, the sentence needs to be executed quickly. Within hours, not decades.

29 posted on 09/29/2006 3:39:57 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: NormsRevenge

30.06 point blank range....zippo


30 posted on 09/29/2006 3:49:37 PM PDT by pointsal (q)
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To: little jeremiah

Truthfully, the ultimate solution is to roll them in a rug then kick and stomp the rug flat. If it was good enough for the Khans it's good enough for scumbags like the condemned.


31 posted on 09/29/2006 3:53:45 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I would presribe a Glaser Blue (.44 Mag), administered to the back of the head, from no more than a few feet away.

It's supersonic, so the perp would never hear it coming, and unconsciousness should occur in well under 1 millisecond, after the back of the skull is contacted. There might not even be an exit wound (probably some blood would come out the eyes and ears, though).

http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/glaser/glaser.htm

32 posted on 09/29/2006 4:06:50 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't understand the controversy about this.

Just a month ago my wife had to put down her 20+ year old poodle.
We did it on the porch with the dog in her lap.

A shot was administered and the dog simply went to sleep.
She showed no signs of discomfort except the needle prick.

The tech checked for a heartbeat after a few minutes and that was that.

What is different with a human execution?
33 posted on 09/30/2006 6:13:13 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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