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G.O.P. Leaders Knew in Late ’05 of E-Mail
new york times ^ | 10/1/06 | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Posted on 09/30/2006 6:33:09 PM PDT by mathprof

Top House Republicans knew for months about e-mail traffic between Representative Mark Foley and a former teenage page, but kept the matter secret and allowed Mr. Foley to remain head of a Congressional caucus on children’s issues, Republican lawmakers said Saturday.

The exchanges began with what Republicans now describe as an “overfriendly” e-mail message from Mr. Foley to the unidentified teenager. But news reports about the exchanges have led to the disclosure of e-mail correspondence with other former pages in which the discussions became more and more sexually explicit. Shortly after he was confronted by ABC News on Friday about the subject, Mr. Foley, who represented a south Florida district, resigned from the House.

The revelations set off a political upheaval, with Democrats and some Republicans alike calling for a full investigation of Mr. Foley’s conduct and whether House leaders did enough to look into it. Members of the Republican leadership sought Saturday to detail how they had handled the case in an effort to defuse the matter, even as it was emerging as an issue in Congressional races.

Among those who became aware of the communication in the fall of 2005 between Mr. Foley and the 16-year-old page, who worked for Representative Rodney Alexander, Republican of Louisiana, were Representative John A. Boehner, the majority leader, and Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of New York, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. Mr. Reynolds said in a statement Saturday that he had also personally raised the issue with Speaker J. Dennis Hastert earlier this year.

“Despite the fact that I had not seen the e-mails in question, and Mr. Alexander told me that the parents didn’t want the matter pursued, I told the speaker of the conversation Mr. Alexander had with me,” Mr. Reynolds said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alexander; fagadrama; foley; gayagenda; gopfagbadratfagsgood; hastert; houseleadership; logcabinrepublicans; markfoley
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To: Dane
Huh and parent's wishes should not be observed?

They should have kept a wary eye on this guy.

301 posted on 09/30/2006 9:40:22 PM PDT by huck von finn
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To: Gradient Vector
I'm not saying don't vote for republicans because ones a pervert and a couple didn't want to bring it out. I'm just saying if the leadership had a good idea he was going after teenage boys and didn't bring it to the police and the public, they shouldn't be the leadership of the republican party.

The evidence they had were non-sexually explicit e-mails and also the parents did not want it to be pursued any further.

Should a parent's wishes be overruled?

302 posted on 09/30/2006 9:40:26 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: over3Owithabrain; AmishDude

who is excusing his behavior?


303 posted on 09/30/2006 9:41:08 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: huck von finn

That's not the point. The point is, if they pursued it by legal means or any means beyond what they did, it would be public and the parents and that page would be dragged in.


304 posted on 09/30/2006 9:41:57 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: huck von finn
They should have kept a wary eye on this guy.

And when the newer evidence came out, the first thing they did was boot foley.

Now contrast to what the typical democrat response would have been.

305 posted on 09/30/2006 9:42:11 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

Many times parents wishes are not in the best interest of anyone but their own child. That is why some laws have changed so that even if the victim doesn't want to pursue something, law officials have to.


306 posted on 09/30/2006 9:42:19 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: marajade

"Looks as if it is. Why isn't he or the parents proceeding with the case?"

It doesn't matter, laws that protect minors from adult perverts don't have to be supported by the minors parents. The state brings the charges.


307 posted on 09/30/2006 9:42:36 PM PDT by Gradient Vector
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To: lastchance

And what will the state do if the victim and his parents don't cooperate?

You think reproduction the emails before a jury is enough?


308 posted on 09/30/2006 9:43:21 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: mathprof

The MSM knew in 2000, 2002, 2004 etc.

(and Barney Frank is still in congress)


309 posted on 09/30/2006 9:44:19 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Many times parents wishes are not in the best interest of anyone but their own child. That is why some laws have changed so that even if the victim doesn't want to pursue something, law officials have to.

So you are saying that they are bad parents and that you know better.

310 posted on 09/30/2006 9:44:26 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: marajade
Again, for what? IMing a 16 year old which is the age of consent in DC.

Are you in any way giving any support for a reprobate 50+ year old that hits on 16 year old boys?

Actually, with your statement above you already answered my question. Pull your head out of your posterior, you science-fiction obsessed twit. Or just go get lost.

On this matter, "Republican" or no, no ground should be ceded. Actually, it is helpful, as we see those on this forum too twisted to understand simple wrong from right, evil from good. Thanks for your reply, I now see what camp you fall in.

311 posted on 09/30/2006 9:44:50 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: huck von finn
The responsibility here lies with oversight of the Congress, not just with the parents of one particular kid. Just because the parents of the first kid didn't want to press charges, it doesn't mean that the responsibility of the Congress is thrown out the window when it comes to the OTHER kids. Surely you recognize that.

Press what charges? "A congressman is bothering my kid with e-mail" charges?

The parents did not seem overly concerned. No one but Alexander saw the e-mail. The e-mail wasn't sexual. There are a whole lot of conclusions one can come to under those circumstances. Screaming "Mark Foley must be a pervert, we need to kick him out" would have been a gross over-reaction.

312 posted on 09/30/2006 9:45:01 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: AmishDude
That's not the point. The point is, if they pursued it by legal means or any means beyond what they did, it would be public and the parents and that page would be dragged in

And in their not doing so, other kids were dragged in, making the situation much worse.

313 posted on 09/30/2006 9:46:48 PM PDT by huck von finn
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To: Homer1

why?

That is BS.

Hasert is right in accpting his resignation.

The MSM knew ALL ALONG about Foley's homosexual antics. There were reporters who were trying to get him to come out of the closet FOR YEARS because of the homosexual marriage debate and the lawsuits about homosexuals banned from adopting children (they lost) AND most recently in the chit chat about his potential run for the senate.

Hassert is fine. This is the NYT save it for the DUmies.


314 posted on 09/30/2006 9:46:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Eva
Yeah, they buried that one.

If McCain turns out to be the GOP nom in '08 and is outpolling Hillary or whoever in September, the Dems are heading out to the graveyard with a backhoe. Count on it.

315 posted on 09/30/2006 9:47:16 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Normal people would kill to save their kids. Muslim fascists raise their kids to die killing others.)
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To: marajade

"And what will the state do if the victim and his parents don't cooperate?

You think reproduction the emails before a jury is enough?"

They will collect more evidence, probably phone records, other witnesses and they will call the boy during the trial.

Why are you so interested in getting this pervert off on a technicality?


316 posted on 09/30/2006 9:47:18 PM PDT by Gradient Vector
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To: huck von finn

Which is something the leadership didn't know at the time.

Why is this so hard?


317 posted on 09/30/2006 9:48:17 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Gradient Vector

"Why are you so interested in getting this pervert off on a technicality?"

I'm not, are you?


318 posted on 09/30/2006 9:48:27 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Dane
And when the newer evidence came out, the first thing they did was boot foley.

Now contrast to what the typical democrat response would have been

So you're comparing bad behavior to worse behavior? That's not good enough.

319 posted on 09/30/2006 9:48:42 PM PDT by huck von finn
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To: Dane

"Should a parent's wishes be overruled?"

Yes. If someone doesn't want an investigation into statitory rape that doesn't mean the police don't have to investigate. It just means the parents are lousy parents.


320 posted on 09/30/2006 9:48:51 PM PDT by Gradient Vector
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