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Islamofascists: a dangerous label
London Times Sunday Edition ^ | October 01, 2006 | Michael Burleigh

Posted on 10/01/2006 12:11:48 PM PDT by Braak

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To: Braak
The basic problem with Ismal is found in their prayer ritual. Banging the Frontal Lobe on the ground five times a day has got to do some damage.

Frontal lobes have been found to play a part in impulse control, judgment, language, memory, motor function, problem solving, sexual behavior, socialization and spontaneity. Frontal lobes assist in planning, coordinating, controlling and executing behavior. People that have damaged frontal lobes may experience problems with these aspects of cognitive function, being at times impulsive; impaired in their ability to plan and execute complex sequences of actions; perhaps persisting with one course of action or pattern of behavior when a change would be appropriate (perseveration).

Cognitive maturity associated with adulthood is marked by related maturation of cerebral fibers in the frontal lobes between late teenager years and early adult years.

21 posted on 10/01/2006 12:41:39 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: sageb1

True. Our ancestors knew it. There was no Nazi brutality to compare it to (although some have tried to associate the Templar Knights with Nazism).


22 posted on 10/01/2006 12:42:05 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Braak
To be honest I think we're playing label games here. Fascism certainly has an economic aspect to it that Islamism doesn't quite share, at least at the present time. That specifically is the state toleration of private ownership of the means of production while controlling their use, especially in strategic industries such as oil and armaments. These are state entities in Iran, the latter under direct control of the Revolutionary Guard - as the author points out, that is more Bolshevist than Fascist.

However, as an ideological movement Islamism does indeed share a wide range of commonality with fascism. Race has little to do with it - substitute Master Religion for Master Race and it's a close fit. There is the totalitarian aspect - one need not substitite Caliph for State, the Caliph is the State. There is the utopian aspiration that must be fed by conquest. There is the fanaticism, the intolerance, the polarization. There is the permanent state of anger, the violence, the murder. In short, the similarities are legion.

I realize that in this age of relentless hermeneutics that such labels are given a significance that is larger than the more skeptical among us think proper. But it seems to me less important what we call it than what we do about it.

23 posted on 10/01/2006 12:44:26 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: goldstategop

Bump.

5 of thw world's 10 wealthiest men lived in the Middle East. The jihadist war is not because of poverty.

Bin Laden is a billionaire.

Saddam funded international terrorism and was building a billion dollar mosque in the shape of his thumbprint so Allah could see him from above (and it was a French architect who was behind the project).


24 posted on 10/01/2006 12:45:06 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Braak; GSlob; weegee

Okay.

Islamo-boy scouts? ... Islamo-cub scouts? ... Islamo-brownies? (No, we can't use that. Someone would call it racial.)

Islamo-not nice people? ... Islamo-islamists?

Islamo-targets of opportunity?


Islamo-fascists works pretty well for me.


25 posted on 10/01/2006 12:53:20 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
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To: Billthedrill
But it seems to me less important what we call it than what we do about it.

Until the people of the Earth agree:

(A) that it exists as a movement
(B) that is is evil
(C) that is is a threat

too many people would rather attack Western governments in the continuation of their hundred year war against capitalism. Marxists remain our number two threat and too many Marxists have partnered WITH the Islamic supremacist movement.

Backing La Raza and MECHA means a western interfada for Aztec-Natives (of European Spanish ancestory) to continue their demands for their own "homeland" ("go back to Europe" and "this is MY homeland" as their signs say). Divide and conquor.

Now we hear of increasing Mexican Catholic to Muslim conversions in America.

The goals of the different political factions may be diverse but they stand united against their enemies "US"!

And that is the constituency of the modern Democrat party as well, diverse interests united by hatred and fear against the other party. Socialism is the political religion of the left. Anarchist Socialists (who DO believe in a form of government, just not the type found anywhere in the world) oppose our Constitution. They just don't believe they will succeed in overthrowing our constitutional form of government in their own lifetime. But destruction of this country is their common goal. And in that end, I oppose them.

26 posted on 10/01/2006 12:53:40 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Braak; All
Jonah Goldberg: The Swastika and the Scimitar
Also, try the The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism: Adolf Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini by Chuck Morse--
http://tinyurl.com/zll7w

What Is 'Islamofascism'? A history of the word from the first Westerner to use it.
 
Hitler, the Mufti of Jerusalem, and Islamic Fascism

I’ve read about the alliance between Adolf Hitler and Muslim Arab leaders in World War II, and seen still photographs, but this is the first time I’ve seen actual video of Hitler meeting with the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini—Yasser Arafat’s alleged uncle. From a German TV documentary, with English subtitles. (Hat tip: Justify This, who also created the Azzam Tamimi “shrieking jihad” video.)  link: 142 comments

TOTALLY DEVASTATING.

Shows that modern Islamism and the Palestinian movement are the DIRECT descendent of Nazism. More connections here:

http://www.tellthech...

 http://ninthstate.ne...

Found your post and link to vid at YouTube:
Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism

Lot's of Key Nazi's photoed with Husseini and his "Hanzar Nazi/Muslim troops"

A good poster showing Nazi salutes then and now.

Hezbollah's Nazi roots (the left's common ground with Islamofascism)

27 posted on 10/01/2006 12:54:08 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Natural Law

Cool. You got it.


Islamo-lizardbrains it is.


28 posted on 10/01/2006 12:56:00 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
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To: NicknamedBob

I could go with that.


29 posted on 10/01/2006 1:00:20 PM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: Braak

Fascists? I don't see any fascists...

30 posted on 10/01/2006 1:03:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Braak

Islamofascists= Islam

sounds right to me


31 posted on 10/01/2006 1:04:35 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: steve-b

Agree. The fascism in Islam is intrinsic. It was not grafted on by Europeans.


32 posted on 10/01/2006 1:05:49 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: weegee

We have wasted too much precious time trying to find PC adjectives to negatively describe an ideology with no positives.


33 posted on 10/01/2006 1:07:28 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Billthedrill
"But it seems to me less important what we call it than what we do about it."

Exactly.

34 posted on 10/01/2006 1:08:58 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Billthedrill
"Fascism certainly has an economic aspect to it that Islamism doesn't quite share, at least at the present time."

It is Marxist in nature. How ironic. Fascism meets Marxism and what do you have? Chaos.

35 posted on 10/01/2006 1:10:47 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Braak
"perhaps we need to stop letting them into our countries"

Correct.

36 posted on 10/01/2006 1:15:47 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Braak
Also by Tariq Ramadan...Why I'm banned in the USA
37 posted on 10/01/2006 1:18:08 PM PDT by null and void (Barking at the staff & growling disapproval are OK... chasing cats during lunch makes you look bad..)
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To: GSlob

The Muslim Brotherhood-Sayyid Qutb crazies want to establish a New World Order caliphate. OBL is apart of that organization? He listen to the Blind Sheiks sermons when he was a young lad.


38 posted on 10/01/2006 1:20:45 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Braak

Until someone comes up with a more unflattering label, I'm sticking with "Islamofascists."


Calling them "jihadists" can't be regarded as unflattering. That's what they call themselves.


39 posted on 10/01/2006 1:21:57 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: steve-b
Hence, the term "Islamic Fundamentalism" is more apropos.

True, and it would allow the left to comprehend the danger in something they can relate to, which is the evil of "Christian Fundamentalism." Once they grasp that concept, they would surely get on the right side of things. (I don't think Christian Fundamentalism is evil, liberals think that, so don't flame me. :-) )

40 posted on 10/01/2006 1:22:45 PM PDT by webheart
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