Posted on 10/01/2006 10:00:04 PM PDT by LibWhacker
I no longer accept that we are only at war with Islamic fascists or Islamic Fundamentalists or whatever the heck we’re calling them this week. I believe that we in the West are at war with Islam, period.
I have heard any number of politicians, up to and including President Bush, claim, contrary to all reason and evidence, that Islam is a religion of peace. If you buy that load of malarkey, I’ve got a Brooklyn mosque I’d like to sell you.
This is the religion that was founded by the violence-prone Mohammed fourteen hundred years ago. It was he who established the practice of converting at the point of a sword; a short while ago, two journalists kidnapped by his followers were converted at the barrel of a gun. In 14 centuries, it seems only the technology has changed.
I have read that the current crop of terrorists and butchers only represent about ten percent of the world’s 1.2 billion Muslims. I don’t know how they came by that figure, but that would still add up to 120 million cut-throats and fellow travelers. That figure is far greater than the number of Germans who were even alive when Hitler and his pagan hordes were marching across Europe, and far greater than the number of Russians who were Communist Party members during Stalin’s reign of terror.
I have heard well-meaning people claim that, however we might feel about Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and the various tyrants heading up Syria, Iran and the rest of the Middle East, our own American Muslims are a breed apart. Sorry, but I don’t buy it. We’re all aware that long after their co-religionists attacked the U.S.S. Cole, blew up our embassies and attacked a Marine base, and murdered 3,000 innocent people on 9/11, all in the name of Allah, these peace lovers were wiring contributions to our sworn enemies.
Moreover, we know that young American Muslims are not lining up to join our armed services and thus prove that their loyalty to this nation takes precedence over their religion.
In 1943, the 442nd Regimental Combat Team was formed. It consisted of young Japanese-American men. In spite of the fact that the Nisei faced widespread prejudice in America, and in spite of the fact that their own families had been imprisoned by the federal government at Manzanar and various other concentration camps, these volunteers became the most decorated combat unit of its size during World War II. It was thanks to their sacrificial efforts that over 200 members of the 36th Texas Division, the so-called Lost Division, were rescued from certain slaughter at the hands of the Germans. It was during this battle in France’s Vosges mountains that Second Lt. Daniel K. Inouye, later to be elected to the U.S. Senate, lost his right arm and earned the Congressional Medal of Honor. Astonishingly, his was only one of 21 such medals won by the relatively small group. The unit became legendary, known as the “Go for Broke” guys who fought for their country and their honor, collecting nearly 10,000 Purple Hearts and a nation’s gratitude along the way.
On the other hand, what do we hear from America’s Muslims? Silence when it comes to military service, bellyaching when it comes to ridiculous claims of racial profiling.
Quite honestly, I suspect that the only way we could get the Koran crowd to go fight in the Middle East is if the United States declared war on Israel!
And it's not just the current crop. Islam reliably and unfailingly turns out these butchers century after century after century, without skipping a beat. It's pure nonsense to defeat only the current crop of butchers. We're going to have to defeat the whole insane religion. How, I don't know, but we're going to have to defeat it if we love our kids.
various other concentration camps -- huge, huge typo. They were internment camps. Internment.
This problem does not have a non-genocidal solution.
Multiple Choice Test
1. In 1968, Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles by
(a) Superman,
(b) Jay Leno,
(c) Tiger Woods,
(d) a man from Palestine between 17 and 40 years old.
2. In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were kidnapped and killed at the Munich Olympics by
(a) the kid who cuts your grass,
(b) Sitting Bull,
(c) Arnold Schwarzenegger,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
3. In 1979, the US Embassy in Tehran was over-ran & 52 Americans were held for 444 days by
(a) Bruce Lee,
(b) Elvis Presley's deceased twin brother,
(c) a tour group of Minnesota grandmothers,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
4. During the 1980s, several Americans were kidnapped in Beirut by
(a) O J Simpson,
(b) the king of Sweden,
(c) the pope and a gang of Cardinals,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
5. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon was blown up, killing 220 Marines, by
(a) a Domino's Pizza delivery man,
(b) the president of the Southern Baptist Convention,
(c) Catherine Zeta-Jones,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
6. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger thrown overboard in his wheelchair by
(a) Sugar Ray Leonard,
(b) your next door neighbor,
(c) the Little Mermaid,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
7. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by
(a) Captain Kangaroo,
(b)Walt Disney,
(c) Mother Teresa,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
8. In 1988, Pan American Flight 103 was destroyed by a bomb in midair by
(a) Butch Cassidy,
(b) the Sundance Kid,
(c) the Tooth Fairy,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
9. The World Trade Center was bombed the first time in 1993 by
(a) Stonewall Jackson,
(b) Michael Jordan,
(c) Winston Churchill,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
10. In 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by
(a) Santa Claus,
(b) your sister's cat's grandmother's first owner's son's basketball coach's ex-wife,
(c) the World Wrestling Federation,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
11. On September 11, 2001, airliners were hijacked to crash into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon by
(a) Bugs Bunny,
(b) Bob the Tomato,
(c) Ricky Martin,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
12. In 2002, Daniel Pearl of the Wall Street Journal was kidnapped and beheaded by
(a) Bonnie and Clyde,
(b) the Michelin man,
(c) Barney Fife,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
13. In July of 2005, several targets were attacked in central London, killing 52 persons, by
(a) the Orkin Man,
(b) Margaret Thatcher,
(c) Mr. Goodwrench,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
what do you mean?
Western Civilization fought Islam non-stop for about 1,300 years, ending with WWI. The utter defeat of the Ottoman Empire and the colonial subjugation of Islamic territory staved off the wars for about 60 years.
Rather than supposing another 1,300 years of violence, I prefer GW's effort. Let's democratize and make capitalists of them.
A good Indian friend points out that India has a huge Muslim population that is much less militant, usually because they are spending so much energy making money.
In Iraq, if we can actually stand up a democracy so that they battle polls, focus groups and ballot boxes, it will be a much improved situation.
So I look for ways to change the game. Just because wild-eyed jihadists want to kill us all doesn't mean we have to commit genocide or die ourselves. We've got to create new ways to win. Some of that will involve bloodshed. Hopefully, we can find some additional ways that don't.
He means he thinks there is no solution short of killing them all - at least that's what he wrote.
If that's the case, then I can't agree. Killing terrorists is one thing, but killing every muslim worldwide is something entirely different.
I honestly don't expect anyone to be more loyal to his nation than his religion. God is bigger than that. But there's not always a conflict. When a Christian fights for the U.S. in the war on terror, his loyalty to America isn't trumping his loyalty to Jesus Christ. His loyalty to and love for both can co-exist.
Is that not true for Muslims? Or do they not fight because they just don't care?
Let's not forget Chavez...
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2515529
Yes it is. Dark times ahead.
"Killing terrorists is one thing, but killing every muslim worldwide is something entirely different."
The Koran instructs it's believers in terrorism. Until the Muslims can denounce this book, it will not end. I'm afraid libwhacker is right... Though technically it would not be genocide.
I recently read an interesting thing about this in a collection of e-mails, stories, and letters from the war on terror in "Operation Homecoming." One was an e-mail from a soldier who said he met an American citizen originally from Iraq now living in Dearborn, Mich., who was visiting Iraq and told him that eight of his friends, also from Dearborn, had died in the service of the new Iraqi Army. Apparently, they'd left Dearborn to join the new Iraqi Army. Not the US military, though.
"Is that not true for Muslims? Or do they not fight because they just don't care?"
They do not fight because they do not have a desire to stand up for and defend this country. They do not love and cherish this country. They will not go to war against fellow Mooselimbs.
Genocide is obviously a solution. I hope it's not the best solution. In the end, I think it's going to take divine intervention to find the best solution. Maybe the Pope can come up with something? His last statement impressed me a lot.
I do think we have an obligation to resist islam in its present form, to fight and even kill islamic fascists in self defense, and always, try to find a way to tame it, all the while praying for God to come down here and help us out. We definitely need Him for this one, I think! How's that for namby-pambiness, lol?
Cheers!
Churchill on Islam:
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
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