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Bad news for race baiting politicians in New York
AP (via WCBS News radio 880 website) ^ | 10/2/2006 | dashing doofus

Posted on 10/02/2006 1:20:05 PM PDT by dashing doofus

Median Income For Blacks Greater than Whites in Queens

New York, NY -- Queens is the only large county in the nation where the median income of black residents has surpassed that of white residents. That's according to Census data analyzed by the New York Times.

The picture is quite different across the river in Manhattan, where the gap between whites and blacks is wider than in any other large county in the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsradio88.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: newyork; politics
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1 posted on 10/02/2006 1:20:06 PM PDT by dashing doofus
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To: dashing doofus
Some residents pointed to the success of immigrants from the West Indies and elsewhere as one reason for the shift in the borough. The earnings of foreign-born blacks outpaced the income of blacks born in the United States.

Now that is ironic...

2 posted on 10/02/2006 1:23:17 PM PDT by 2banana
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To: 2banana

Also ironic is that Manhattan is probably the bluest of NYC's five boroughs (counties), and that is where the income disparity is the greatest.

I lived in Queens for a while, and it was much more conservative (though still blue).


3 posted on 10/02/2006 1:25:31 PM PDT by dashing doofus
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To: dashing doofus

Queens is blue in national elections, but is a swing county in state and city elections. It's probably the 2nd most conservative borough after Staten Island. Queens still has decent number of working class white people - it hasn't experienced white flight quite as bad as Brooklyn. I know there was a huge white flight from Brooklyn to Staten Island in the mid-1960's right after the Verrazano was opened.


4 posted on 10/02/2006 2:01:26 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Clemenza

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this.


5 posted on 10/02/2006 2:01:59 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: dashing doofus

Why'd you change the headline?


6 posted on 10/02/2006 2:04:19 PM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: 2banana
did you notice that they were not home grown homies like in Manhattan but west indie raised and 2 parent families . not part of the great society giveaway.
7 posted on 10/02/2006 2:06:13 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Yeah. Interesting that the working folks in Queens and S.I. tend to vote more republican (though still blue in national county-by-county maps), while the boroughs with the richest residents (Manhattan) and the poorest (Brooklyn and Da Bronx) go solidly blue.


8 posted on 10/02/2006 2:06:44 PM PDT by dashing doofus
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To: Chunga

Because I am a doofus, and this was the first time I started a thread.


9 posted on 10/02/2006 2:07:36 PM PDT by dashing doofus
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To: dashing doofus

Well, it's not all that interesting in a way...it's a pretty common. Though, to be fair, both parties try to portray the other as the party of rich elitists and themselves as the party of working people, and the truth is, party affiliation remarkably evenly split among all income groups.

Also, Staten Island also goes Republican in national elections too. Staten Island almost always goes GOP for President, and they are represented in the House (along with part of Brooklyn) by Rep. Vito Fossella, a conservative Republican.


10 posted on 10/02/2006 2:13:09 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: 2banana

no, they are willing to work


11 posted on 10/02/2006 2:55:31 PM PDT by camas
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To: dashing doofus

Isn't Straten island also a Republican voting area, it is a more working class area.


12 posted on 10/02/2006 2:59:01 PM PDT by GregH
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To: Cacique

btt


13 posted on 10/02/2006 3:16:10 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
Does NOT surprise me.

1. SE Queens has always had a large population of affluent blacks, particularly in Laurelton and Addesleigh Park.

2. A disproportionate share of the white population in Queens are senior citizen "empty nesters," whose nabes are now being repopulated by immigrants from other countries (especially east and south Asia).

3. The few young white folks who live in many parts of Queens are immigrants themselves, especially from Russia, Poland, Romania, and the Middle East (yes, Arabs are counted as "white" in the census, and their are many in Astoria and Long Island City).

14 posted on 10/02/2006 5:25:48 PM PDT by Clemenza (Dave? Dave?)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
Actually there is a white INFLUX into Brooklyn, and OUT OF Queens. Much of Brooklyn near Manhattan has become gentrified, with young, educated whites now dominant in Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens, and increasingly Williamsburgh/Greenpoint and Fort Greene. Their are even white folk (largely from Europe) who are moving into Bed Stuy!

Queens, on the other hand, is seeing its white population grey and move to the cemetaries, while Asians, Carribbean Blacks, and Latinos move in.

15 posted on 10/02/2006 5:28:31 PM PDT by Clemenza (Dave? Dave?)
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To: GregH
Staten Island has alot of cops and firemen, who tend to be more conservative than other unionized folks.

Don't fall for the old line, btw, about blue collar whites being "conservative" in this part of the country. If that were the case, Woodbridge, Carteret, Bayonne, and Camden County (NJ) would be the most Republican places in the tri-state area (hint: they aint).

16 posted on 10/02/2006 5:30:19 PM PDT by Clemenza (Dave? Dave?)
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To: dashing doofus

See posts #14 and #15. Brooklyn in becoming yuppie, while Queens continues to change demographically.


17 posted on 10/02/2006 5:31:39 PM PDT by Clemenza (Dave? Dave?)
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To: Cacique; rmlew; firebrand; cyborg; wtc911; AuH2ORepublican
Does NOT surprise me.

1. SE Queens has always had a large population of affluent blacks, particularly in Laurelton and Addesleigh Park.

2. A disproportionate share of the white population in Queens are senior citizen "empty nesters," whose nabes are now being repopulated by immigrants from other countries (especially east and south Asia).

3. The few young white folks who live in many parts of Queens are immigrants themselves, especially from Russia, Poland, Romania, and the Middle East (yes, Arabs are counted as "white" in the census, and their are many in Astoria and Long Island City).

18 posted on 10/02/2006 5:32:45 PM PDT by Clemenza (Dave? Dave?)
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To: dashing doofus; Clemenza

West Indian black business, two job hustling... BUMP BUMP!


19 posted on 10/02/2006 5:38:00 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: cyborg
1. Make all your money up here.

2. Invest in South Florida real estate for your kids.

3. Retire to a farm in Trinidad, where you can lord over the locals who refused to leave when you did!

20 posted on 10/02/2006 5:39:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (Dave? Dave?)
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