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Foley Setup? - Part V - Uncovering the Conspiracy
Macsminds ^ | 10.04.06 | Macranger

Posted on 10/04/2006 4:57:03 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: whirleygirl

That's because what you are saying doesn't make sense.

The GOP defending themselves against bogus allegations is exactly what they need to do - that is, for anyone who wants to see them retain the House.

The allegation is that the GOP leadership sat on explicit IMs and did nothing.

The Dems would like that very much if the GOP took your advice to just let those very serious charges slide. Let them slide for a few weeks until the charges are solidified in voters' minds. Any defense at that point will be a day late and a dollar short in the public's eye, and will be viewed a last ditch effort to play games. The Democrats would like that very much, indeed.

Hastert himself called for a full investigation of what happened, and THAT needs to be front page stories too.


161 posted on 10/04/2006 10:46:05 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: musikman
He is disgusting, no doubt, but didn't DO anything. Where's the crime?

Corrupting the morals of a minor. Soliciting sex from a minor. Those are crimes. Foley is a sick man who belongs nowhere near political power of any kind.

That said, imagine a political party made up almost entirely of Mark Foley's and you have the Democrat Party. Enough said.
162 posted on 10/04/2006 10:50:24 AM PDT by Antoninus (Rule 4: See Rules 1 and 3. Rule 5: NO FOLEYS!)
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To: KJC1

I'm sure this could get me kicked off of Free Republic, but I don't give a rat's a** if Republicans hold onto the house. I want to see good people with good ideas who care about America first and party second in power.


163 posted on 10/04/2006 10:52:24 AM PDT by whirleygirl (no longer Texasbound)
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To: whirleygirl
I'm sure this could get me kicked off of Free Republic, but I don't give a rat's a** if Republicans hold onto the house. I want to see good people with good ideas who care about America first and party second in power.

LOL. You mean like the Democrats and their GREAT ideas, including making false allegations against their political opponents?

164 posted on 10/04/2006 10:59:18 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: whirleygirl
Good morning.
"But the Dems..."

There you go again. Other than a few comments about Barney Frank, Gerry Stubb and Mel Reynolds, I haven't seen anyone equating creep Foley's actions with those of the DemocRATs.

Condemnation of Foley by Republicans is almost universal and failure to call the DemocRATs on what they are doing is politically suicidal.

Foley ceased to be the issue almost immediately after he was exposed. Emasculating the Republicans before the election is what it is all about, but I'm of the opinion that it will turn around and bite the DemocRATs as well.

Michael Frazier
165 posted on 10/04/2006 11:07:52 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: whirleygirl

I am not making Foley a victim. But if you had seen this adult on TV you may see my point at least a little bit. He is now 25 or so. He was just saying all this stuff against Republicans. Please don't believe I have any soft feeling or anything for Foley. He has given us undue headaches for selfish reason.


166 posted on 10/04/2006 11:19:34 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: KJC1

"You mean like the Democrats"

No, I don't. Perhaps this is the wake-up call this country needs to realize that the two-party system, as it exists today, is destroying America.


167 posted on 10/04/2006 11:19:37 AM PDT by whirleygirl (no longer Texasbound)
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To: napscoordinator

We need to express our anger on Nov 7th.


168 posted on 10/04/2006 11:20:46 AM PDT by Perdogg (Democratic Party - The political wing of Al Qaida)
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To: napscoordinator

Point taken. I'll check out the evening news.


169 posted on 10/04/2006 11:20:50 AM PDT by whirleygirl (no longer Texasbound)
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To: Dave S

The crime would be knowingly withholding evidence of criminal behavior. I'm sure the FBI investigation won't impact this election but I would take satisfaction in seeing some scumbags go to jail.


171 posted on 10/04/2006 12:00:27 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: whirleygirl; All
Gerry Studds had a GAY AFFAIR with a male page (17 years old) and was rewarded with a chairmanship by his party and was re-elected for 5 or 6 terms. He was a rat.

The Republicans are not defending Foley; the fact of the matter is that NOBODY is alleging Foley had any contact or ever intended to have sexual contact with these kids. It was not his intent, though CLEARLY what he did was unethical and immoral and revolting.

Of course he should be gone, and he is. That is the point: the Republicans DO the right thing by getting rid of him, but it is still never enough for the 'rats. And it belies the very behavior of the Democrats themselves who didn't give a crap about the young page who Gerry Studds *HAD PHYSICAL SEX WITH*.

172 posted on 10/04/2006 2:22:21 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: whirleygirl

I know of no one here who is not outraged by Foley's misbehavior, and he had to go quickly. If it proves an appropriate matter for prosecution I don't think anyone at FR will be standing between him and a jail cell. YET, when it so quickly becomes clear that various Demagogues and MSM hacks had more relevant info than probably ANY of the Republicans, AND that said Demagogues and MSM hacks sat on such info for 1, 2, maybe even 3+ years to save it for the most opportune moment a few weeks before a Congressional election, then yes it is highly relevant and important to look at the behavior of said vicious hacks and Demagogues. By THEIR own behavior they have proved that what they are concerned with is not "protecting our children" (else they would have acted on their info long ago), but solely with trying to smear all Republicans (right before an election) with Foley's scumbag behavior.

You should be a lot more interested in the low character and vicious behavior of such people who care not a whit about "protecting our children" but only about playing vicious politics with this matter.


173 posted on 10/04/2006 2:31:31 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Check out http://passionateamerica.blogspot.com. This Page may have already been 18 years old when this all took place. Again, it looks like a blogger is doing the work of the MSM.


174 posted on 10/04/2006 2:33:50 PM PDT by kcrackel
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To: Enchante
"By THEIR own behavior they have proved that what they are concerned with is not "protecting our children" (else they would have acted on their info long ago), but solely with trying to smear all Republicans (right before an election) with Foley's scumbag behavior.

You should be a lot more interested in the low character and vicious behavior of such people who care not a whit about "protecting our children" but only about playing vicious politics with this matter."

A very insightful post!!

The publicity generated from this incident has been over blown, so the poor kid and his family did not get the privacy they asked for.

So you are correct.."vicious politics" seems to have trumped what is best for the boy and his family.

sw

175 posted on 10/04/2006 2:45:22 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: centristo

I seriously doubt 16 qualifies for statutory rape.


176 posted on 10/04/2006 3:43:29 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: massgopguy

"Really, what was Hastert supposed to do? He is not Foley's boss. He couldn't expel Foley by fiat and it would have been called a Homophobic Witch Hunt. Remeber at the time that Hastert was made aware of the e-mails they were rumors. Try expelling a congressman based on rumors. Maybe the Big Tent wasn't such a good idea after all."




---I think Foley is the fly in the ointment RINO, though! Having since checked into a substance-abuse program, and having claimed childhood sexual abuse by a clergyman, Foley has beaten a predictable path to that last refuge of scoundrels: victimhood.


177 posted on 10/07/2006 12:26:29 AM PDT by Blazing Saddles
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To: Perdogg

Saw Peolsi on tv today. She had a real nice genuine 'deer in the headlights' look on her face! Bahahahahaha.....


178 posted on 10/07/2006 3:45:36 PM PDT by Blazing Saddles
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To: spectre

"By THEIR own behavior they have proved that what they are concerned with is not "protecting our children" (else they would have acted on their info long ago), but solely with trying to smear all Republicans (right before an election) with Foley's scumbag behavior.

You should be a lot more interested in the low character and vicious behavior of such people who care not a whit about "protecting our children" but only about playing vicious politics with this matter."

A very insightful post!!

The publicity generated from this incident has been over blown, so the poor kid and his family did not get the privacy they asked for.

So you are correct.."vicious politics" seems to have trumped what is best for the boy and his family.

sw




---Boy, ain't this the truth! Time to play a little pin the tail on the donkey. haha!


179 posted on 10/07/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by Blazing Saddles
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