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"Red Alert for N(uke) Test" [Hint: MORE Important Than Foley]
Herald Sun, Australia (2 hours ago) ^ | 6 October 2006 | Herald Sun, Australia (2 hours ago)

Posted on 10/06/2006 10:24:04 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

TOKYO - Japan is ready for North Korea to carry out its threatened nuclear test as soon as this weekend, officials said yesterday. Japanese Vice-Foreign Minister Shotaro Yachi, on a visit to Washington, said Pyongyang's resolve to test its first atom bomb should not be underestimated.

"We discussed the possibility that the test would occur this weekend," Mr Yachi said after talks with US Deputy National Security Adviser Jack Crouch. North Korea issued a statement on Tuesday saying it would test a nuclear bomb, dramatically raising the stakes in its standoff with the US on its quest for atomic weapons. "They will probably go ahead and do it as they had that tone in their declaration," Mr Yachi said.

"It possibly means they are already very prepared." North Korean leader Kim Jong Il reportedly gathered top military commanders for a rally yesterday, urging them to bolster defences.

Attendees responded with cheers of hurrah and chanted slogans such as, "Let's fight at the cost of our lives for the respected Supreme Commander comrade Kim Jong Il". Tomorrow is the anniversary of Kim Jong Il's appointment as head of the Korean Workers' Party in 1997. In Tokyo, the Government said it was ready for a test by the arch-rival communist state. "We are making preparations keeping any possible scenario in mind," chief Cabinet Secretary Yasuhisa Shiozaki said. Japan would know immediately if there was a test, he said. Japan's new Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said he would try to find common ground with his counterparts from China and South Korea when he saw them on his first foreign trip, which starts tomorrow. "We need to send messages together to stop the north before they make such a reckless action," Mr Abe said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Japan; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: axis; dprk; focus; gilju; important; kilchu; kilju; kimjongil; nkorea; northkorea; nuclear; nukes; pyongyang; rok; test; underground; war
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Wake up folks! Let's FOCUS.


1 posted on 10/06/2006 10:24:08 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

We are being invaded by illegal aliens!!!!!


2 posted on 10/06/2006 10:24:57 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Didn't you know Karl Rove got N. Korea to do a Nuc. Test to ge t the Foley Scandal off the paper!!

/s


3 posted on 10/06/2006 10:26:09 AM PDT by MrNationalist (Who Dares Wins)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; LS; RockinRight

North Korea has their own October suprise coming.

This might determine a lot of elections this november.


4 posted on 10/06/2006 10:26:26 AM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This ought to "blow Foleygate" off the front pages.........


5 posted on 10/06/2006 10:27:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE DE-FOLEY-ATED...............................)
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To: NeoCaveman
"This might determine a lot of elections this november.

The Norks testing a nuke is the Dems' worst nightmare. Nonetheless, I hope the NK's don't test as it will ultimately result in a regional conflict.
6 posted on 10/06/2006 10:31:03 AM PDT by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: Red Badger
One would imagine.

The East Asian area (throughout the region), i.e. TV, Radio, Press, internet, blogs... all of it consumed with this as the TOP STORY with immense worldwide implications, including for hundreds of thousands of Americans, both civilian and military or otherwise, in South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc.

I check FNS, CNN, and some others, and what do you think the stop story is?

Perverted instant messaging and 'who knew what, when?'

7 posted on 10/06/2006 10:31:40 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: Red Badger
It will.

Figure Sunday at the earliest.

8 posted on 10/06/2006 10:34:08 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: NeoCaveman

Yes, agreed. It should elevate national security and terrorist states with nukes as the supreme issues in the final days of the mid term elections. One would imagine.


9 posted on 10/06/2006 10:35:23 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Figure Sunday at the earliest.

What then? Do you believe there would then be the political will in Japan to develop nuclear weapons?

10 posted on 10/06/2006 10:35:27 AM PDT by Fury
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To: AmericanInTokyo; callmejoe

"Wake up folks"

Bears repeating.


11 posted on 10/06/2006 10:35:30 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I'm so ronery, sad and ronery . . .


12 posted on 10/06/2006 10:36:56 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Skywarner
From al-Reuters:

North Korea announced on Tuesday it planned its first underground nuclear test, saying its hand had been forced by a U.S. "threat of nuclear war and sanctions." "We think the main point is that North Korea should understand how strongly the United States and other council members feel that they should not test this nuclear device," U.S. Ambassador John Bolton told reporters. "And if they do test it, it will be a very different world a day after the test," Bolton said. Diplomats said the Security Council was expected to adopt a formal statement on Friday telling North Korea to abandon the planned nuclear test and warning it of unspecified consequences if it went ahead. North Korean leader Kim Jong-il, making his first reported public appearance since the Tuesday announcement on the planned nuclear test, held a meeting to rally army commanders on Friday. But North Korea's official KCNA news agency did not mention preparations for a nuclear test in its report, which said Kim was welcomed "with stormy cheers of hurrah." The soldiers shouted: "Let's fight at the cost of our lives for the respected supreme commander comrade Kim Jong-il."

13 posted on 10/06/2006 10:36:59 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
And if they do test it, it will be a very different world a day after the test," Bolton said.

Yeah, after the US incinerates Pyongang, the world would be very different...

14 posted on 10/06/2006 10:37:46 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Thud

ping


15 posted on 10/06/2006 10:39:21 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Can I ask you a stupid (but honestly stupid) question? Given that the world has known for some time that N. Korea has nukes, why is a "test" so much more urgent a crisis than the fact that they already had them in the first place? The U.S. and the U.S.S.R. tested nukes often, but in hindsight, history has found that neither one of us seriously wanted to use them when the chips were down. Does N. Korea's testing imply imminent use?


16 posted on 10/06/2006 10:39:22 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." (2 Cor. 12:9))
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To: Fury
" What then? Do you believe there would then be the political will in Japan to develop nuclear weapons?"

Yes.
17 posted on 10/06/2006 10:39:38 AM PDT by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

"And if they do test it, it will be a very different world a day after the test," Bolton said.


It's time people paid attention.
Words matter and THOSE words are astounding.


18 posted on 10/06/2006 10:40:00 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

19 posted on 10/06/2006 10:40:58 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Given that the world has known for some time that N. Korea has nukes, why is a "test" so much more urgent a crisis than the fact that they already had them in the first place?

It's akin to the difference between concealed carry and brandishing.

The U.S. and the U.S.S.R. tested nukes often, but in hindsight, history has found that neither one of us seriously wanted to use them when the chips were down.

The US and the USSR were feeling their way along in developing a nuclear ettiquette during that time. In the wake of the Cold War, Miss Manners would NOT approve of nuclear testing. It annoys the neighbors.

20 posted on 10/06/2006 10:41:59 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Until they test, there is still the possibility that lil' Kim is bluffing.

Once they test, everyone knows they have a bomb and it works.


21 posted on 10/06/2006 10:42:18 AM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

radiation


22 posted on 10/06/2006 10:42:36 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

TEST ON SUNDAY?

Three senior U.S. officials with access to intelligence told Reuters that U.S. speculation about a possible test centered on Sunday, the anniversary of when Kim became head of the national defense commission in 1997.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2536437&page=2


23 posted on 10/06/2006 10:43:28 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: AmericanInTokyo

BTTT!


24 posted on 10/06/2006 10:43:58 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This might be more important in east Asia than Foleygate, but in America Foleygate will rule until first week of Nov. Since N Kor has had nukes for a decade, the test is merely an occasion for joining the community of the world by announcing the test. It is nothing but participating in polite society. Sign them up and invite them for brunch next Thursday.


25 posted on 10/06/2006 10:43:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Velveeta
Combined with what Chris Hill said yesterday. "If North Korea wants a future, they will not explode it."

Remarkable for diplomats.

26 posted on 10/06/2006 10:44:52 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The Western World burns as Foley diddled?.........


27 posted on 10/06/2006 10:45:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE DE-FOLEY-ATED...............................)
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To: Velveeta
Words matter and THOSE words are astounding.

You're talking about the Foley IMs, right?..................

28 posted on 10/06/2006 10:47:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE DE-FOLEY-ATED...............................)
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To: Velveeta

Yes. Satellites have been picking this up for the last few days, and DPRK news reports and actions (such as KPA military movement right in the streets of Pyongyang reported by Japanese today based on satellites) show all indications they are ready to do it, and most likely on one of these dates of anniversaries. Kim Jong il's succession to power, or on 10/10 which is the Party anniversary. They will prepare the people for a broadcast about it as their next step. Kim will go into hiding for days if not weeks right before, during and after.


29 posted on 10/06/2006 10:47:33 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The US and the USSR were feeling their way along in developing a nuclear ettiquette during that time. In the wake of the Cold War, Miss Manners would NOT approve of nuclear testing. It annoys the neighbors.

That's an excellent answer. Thank you. Tokyo mentioned the radiation issue, too. No one can assume these clowns are going to actually test it correctly.

So, as I gather, once a publicized test occurs, essentially in the diplomatic universe, all bets are off. I'm sure Iran is going to be taking notes on the response. I expect we are going to make an example of N. Korea for that end.

30 posted on 10/06/2006 10:48:07 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." (2 Cor. 12:9))
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To: NeoCaveman; All

This could be bad for the GOP...why didn't we invade N.K. instead of Iraq etc, the Dems would cry.

But, it could be very bad for the DEMS.

It would remind voters they need a strong leader that understands fighting terrorism is war.

Now, which side will get the benefit.....that is anybody's guess.


31 posted on 10/06/2006 10:48:27 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Fury
What then? Do you believe there would then be the political will in Japan to develop nuclear weapons?

A former Japanese Prime Minister, I forget which one, is quoted:

"If Japan decides on a Monday that we need nuclear weapons, by Friday we will have them."......

32 posted on 10/06/2006 10:49:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE DE-FOLEY-ATED...............................)
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To: Red Badger

Foley? Who's he?


33 posted on 10/06/2006 10:49:32 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: RightWhale
This will wipe Foley right off the front page in a flash.

We may take military action in response--certainly there will be immediate convening of of the Security Council.

Additionally, anything that can be brought up that infers this is the result of the Bush Administration, then that angle will be played. For the libs, this will be their response, rather than getting behind the President, Japan and the civilized world.

34 posted on 10/06/2006 10:50:20 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: Velveeta

He's the guy who invented sound effects in the motion picture industry........you've seen his name in the credits as FOLEY ARTIST.........


35 posted on 10/06/2006 10:51:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE DE-FOLEY-ATED...............................)
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To: rwfromkansas

I never said which way I thought this would play.

Considering Clinton gave NK lightwater reactors,I'm guessing it blows up* on the Dems.

*unfortunate by deliberate choice of words.


36 posted on 10/06/2006 10:51:57 AM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: rwfromkansas
Yes, this will be their (Democrat's) selfish and small-minded reactionary electoral and policy strategy, rather than uniting behind the President and our troops in Asia during a crisis.

Such is their 'patriotism', which I spit on!

37 posted on 10/06/2006 10:52:45 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Granted if there is military action that will distract the MSM from their girlish gossipfest, but instead of military action a certain Assistant Secy of State may find his new office has been moved to the basement in the back next to the trash compactor.


38 posted on 10/06/2006 10:52:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"Let's fight at the cost of our lives for the respected Supreme Commander comrade Kim Jong Il".

Are these folks lame or what?

39 posted on 10/06/2006 10:53:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (The quickest way to put Foley scandal behind us is for Foley to switch parties - BufordP)
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To: Red Badger

Nakasone is pushing for it (Japan nukes, that is). Things are REALLY going to change in Asia and the world as a result of that little bugger up in Pyongyang.


40 posted on 10/06/2006 10:53:56 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The soldiers shouted: "Let's fight at the cost of our lives for the respected supreme commander comrade Kim Jong-il.

I don't know, this just doesn't roll off the tongue the tongue like a crowd chanting "We will we will rock you." Way too many syllables. They handed these guys a script, and said, "chant this or we will shoot you."

41 posted on 10/06/2006 10:54:06 AM PDT by webheart
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To: MrNationalist

My gosh! Exactly what I was thinking!!! I was waiting to see what Rove was going to do.


42 posted on 10/06/2006 10:54:54 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: rwfromkansas
This will remind everyone why the Democrats cannot be trusted with our security. 
43 posted on 10/06/2006 10:55:24 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: RightWhale

The famed Hill Remark of 5 Oct 2006 (Amb. Chris Hill) yesterday may just be enough to send the Norkies over the top; they were going to do it anyways, but this comment will strike them as an outright threat of war from the United States at a high level--no matter how much it is downspun by McCormick at State or the White House...despite the fact they, DPRK, have been threating war themselves explicity for years against us while we have been controlling our words and temper.


44 posted on 10/06/2006 10:57:44 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: Velveeta
Foley is the hometown of Kenny (The Snake) Stabler, super bowl winning quarterback for the Oakland Raiders.


45 posted on 10/06/2006 10:58:41 AM PDT by blam
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To: AmericanInTokyo
MORE Important Than Foley]

Now I know you're kidding! Nothing is more important than girl-talk, even when voiced by men.

46 posted on 10/06/2006 10:58:43 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: GOPJ
No, not lame, but they are crazy and just about as willing to die as jihadis in our time, or kamikaze's in our parents and grandparents' time.
47 posted on 10/06/2006 10:59:04 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

What are the likely outcomes - assuming the test is a success? (Aside from Japan going nuclear, that is)


48 posted on 10/06/2006 11:03:10 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." (2 Cor. 12:9))
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Nah. The N Kors have a scorecard and know who is playing which position and what their batting average is. If they are not sure their cousins in Beijing can explain it to them in exquisite detail.


49 posted on 10/06/2006 11:03:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Rutles4Ever

It will be much more interesting if the test is a dud.


50 posted on 10/06/2006 11:04:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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