Trouble in pageland around that timeframe.
iggew54880
Mar 18 2004, 01:58 PM
What is going on? I write this message knowing that it most likely will not be placed for public viewing, but that makes my case. This organization is a mess. Matthew Loraditch - I say this with all due respect, but we are humans, for the most part adults. You need not sit and monitor this website like we are children being exposed to the dangers of the world. This website is not going to be your lifetime. I know that may disappoint you, but this website will come and go. Quite frankly, many of us are too busy to check this website once a week, let alone, once a month. I have offered several postings before, but they weren't allowed to be published, for what reasons, I don't know. Here are some things that you possibly could work on:
1) Keep consistency. I don't know how many times the picture of the week is back up. I mean, seriously, the picture of the week has been on vacation more than President George W. Bush, which as of August 2003, was 250 days.
2) When the picture of the week is back, make sure the link works.
3) Make the site user friendly. I mean click this, click that, enter this, put this in there, do this, put confirmation code here, etc. etc. is a bit extreme. Half of the stuff doesn't even work, or is useless.
4) Instead of driving people away from the site, perhaps you should be looking at ways to bridge your closely held beliefs with the rest of the world. You and a select few share you beliefs. The website and positions within the organization should be open to all people, whether you agree with them or not.
5) Resign and turn this over to the people that belong to this site.
This may sound harsh, but it has never been like me to use tact when dealing with this sort of thing. I look forward to seeing this posted, and even more so for the debate that should follow... Thoughts?
loraditchm
Mar 18 2004, 04:59 PM
I will respond this a bit later.
Please post your responses/comments
Joy128
Mar 18 2004, 07:36 PM
The site seems great to me! And I certainly believe a certain amount of monitoring is needed, especially after some of the posts and pictures of have seen posted on this site.
I'm not an adult, and neither are the many, many, prospect pages who roam this site. We are simply eager kids looking for any sort of information on the page program, and in my mind, loraditchm has done a fantastic job of facilitating that flow of information.
As for your specific points:
1) Picture of the week can only be as consistent as those who are willing to contribute pictures. You cannot expect the web master to generate a picture every week, the pictures must come from pages who are willing to submit them. This is not a flaw in the web design, but simply a short supply of pictures which could be easily remedied if people would contribute.
2) I'm not sure what you are talking about. In order to get to pic of the week you go to Sections, click "Pic of the week" and click the picture you would like to view. Though you may consider this a tedious process, all of the links do work.
3) Um...perhaps you could clarify what exactly doesn't work. As far as I can see, the forum and prospect page sections have been a tremendous success.
4) I REALLY do not know where you are driving at with this point. The site IS accessible to all, if it wasn't I wouldn't be here. loraditchm knows nothing about me, my history, my beliefs or anything else about me, and yet I am a registered poster with a pretty high post count. I did not need his permission to register. as I'm sure you know (since you are registered) all that is required is for you to chose a user name! And in fact, if you feel uncomfortable with that, you can even post as an anonymous guest. Restricted access? I don't believe so.
5) First of all, to my knowledge, loraditchm is the prime source of funding for this site. To ask someone to relinquish control of a site which they support out of their own pocket money is ludicrous. Secondly, loraditchm has done is utmost to encourage a form of "government" if that is what you would like to call it by introducing a constitution/charter. If you visited the site regularly, you would have seen the vote regarding this. However, since only 44 (I believe) members of this board actually voted, it was determined that more growth was needed before further action was necessary.
Those are my thought General conclusion: You've done an awesome job loraditchm
adlaidemocrat
Mar 18 2004, 09:47 PM
arthur, im me and we'll talk
lol
adlaidemocrat
Mar 18 2004, 09:52 PM
oh and btw my fellow "most liberal", pic of the week IS being updated. lol, though you argued your position with the elquence and assertiveness that have become synonymous with the name "matthew arthur" lol
adlaidemocrat
Mar 18 2004, 09:54 PM
Joy128, what arthur was talking about in his part #4 is controversial fight between loraditch and jordan. im or pm me if you wanna hear a fair version of it.
adlaidemocrat
Mar 18 2004, 09:55 PM
sorry that i couldn't condense all these replies into one.
Danny_C`
Mar 18 2004, 10:01 PM
I'll throw my thoughts on the matter into this as well.
1. I know the feeling with POTW, but your aim is off. Loraditch doesn't run it, he appoints people to do it. The last person in charge wasn't able to keep up with everything, so it fell down. I've taken over the job now, and we're starting to stockpile photos and other important stuff for it, so it should be consistant for at least the next year or two.
2. I'm assuming you mean the link on the picture in the news posts? If so, good point. It would be nice to get that working, but I have no idea what it would take to do that, so for now I'm putting a link in the text of the post, and then there's always the other way that Joy128 mentioned.
3. I see your point with some of that. The security/hoops are a good thing, though. Keeps it all clean. As for the broken stuff...well, I think a lot of that is lack of content to put in the places. Mebbe you could write up some?
4. Neutral to this.
5. I think I've got to agree with Joy128 on this one. He who has the gold, makes the rules, and if he did resign, who'd pay for all this? I know there's a donation button, but I have no idea how much it brings in (if anything.) Also, I think he's doing a pretty good job of making this a 'community run' board. He's not the only mod in the place, and he has been trying to get people to take positions of responsibility throughout the site. I know he recently opened a decent list of positions (don't know what all has been filled, except for POTW), so I hope you've applied/ offered to help with something.
Anyways, that's my two cents on this. You've brought up some good points that will hopefully get results, especially from board members. Good job to Loraditch, too.
iggew54880
Mar 19 2004, 06:43 AM
Thank you for reminding me that Loraditch is the webmaster. Silly me! I almost forgot. You think that someone who made a practice of "banning" people from the website and further making a forum abuot it, would surely be remembered as the webmaster. Damn power hungry liberals... I mean...
I guess that further proves my point, that as webmaster he is ultimately responsible for what is posted, or in many cases, not posted. No, Joy128, unfortunately, all the links do not work! I do not have the time to sit and copy and paste links that don't work, otherwise I would. I do urge you though to check out ALL the links before making that assertion.
Joy128
Mar 19 2004, 07:54 AM
So the web site isn't "perfect", what's your point?
adlaidemocrat
Mar 19 2004, 11:20 AM
arthur, calm down. it's not like this is a court case or something. lol
Citadel
Mar 19 2004, 12:03 PM
Lorad...you are doing a great job, keep up the great work. Someone who is funding the website shouldnt have to stand down from there position.
Thank you for the site!
adlaidemocrat
Mar 19 2004, 12:05 PM
well he isnt the SOLE fund, i mean various members of my class were solicited for donation and did donate monies, although loraditch paid for the majority of it
iggew54880
Mar 19 2004, 12:10 PM
Citadel- I must agree with you....
I was the first group to live in that room... 107.
loraditchm
Mar 19 2004, 12:14 PM
yes a few donated from our class in the beginning, i then had 3 subsequent donations, 1 $200 from anonymous, 1 $5 from billy kwilos and $30(i think) from another member of my class, all of which has been used and everything is now my money
adlaidemocrat
Mar 19 2004, 03:10 PM
in genereal, i think those of us on this message board, myself and arthur included, seem to have a flare for the dramatic. lol
iggew54880
Mar 19 2004, 08:54 PM
Stanton - my good, gracious and Lenten God. You refer to me as one who "seem[s] to have a flare for the dramatic." Stating pure and simple facts always has to make one dramatic. I mean, maybe my style is a little harsh. I have been related to that of clorox bleach. I have been called a bastard, and will most likely be called one again...
Here is a thought for the day...
"We're concerned about AIDS inside our White House - make no mistake about it." -George W. Bush, Feb. 7, 2001
Believe me George... I am concerned a lot more than just AIDS in your White House...
adlaidemocrat
Mar 19 2004, 08:56 PM
hahaha.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:KPyi4DTXfIMJ:www.pagealumni.us/boards/lofiversion/index.php%3Ft258.html+loraditch+jordan&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=18