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To: conservative in nyc

Looks like these staffers have a whole lot more authority than they should, so is it a staff scandal now???

But then again we have been instructed since 1993 Clinton policy "DON'T ASK - DON'T TELL".


4 posted on 10/07/2006 2:17:19 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
But then again we have been instructed since 1993 Clinton policy "DON'T ASK - DON'T TELL".

Obviously, that applies to the military, but you are dead on with your sarcasm.

Homosexuality is an unholy sacrament to the Liberals - never to be ridiculed and rebuked.

Unless of coarse it helps Nancy Pelosi and the Communists.

12 posted on 10/07/2006 4:24:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Just mythoughts; conservative in nyc
But then again we have been instructed since 1993 Clinton policy "DON'T ASK - DON'T TELL".

That was not the "Clinton policy". That was the reaction to it. And there is direct application to what is going on now:

Immediately after assuming the Presidency in January of 1993, Clinton issued an executive order which would allow open gays and lesbians to serve in the U. S. military.

This met with immediate and massive public opposition nationally, including that from all the major veterans' organizations.

A crucial part of combat readiness is respecting and having reliance upon one's fellow soldiers. If a person is viewed as engaging in unnatural acts, even off-duty, the perception of that holds over to duty-hours and affects - critically in wartime - the combat unit.

It is unrealistic to expect military personnel to clinically separate a fellow soldier's personal life from the life as a member of the fighting unit.

The contention that the homosexual issue in the military is like former racial and gender barriers is false: the essence of the question is not of race or gender but of behavior - and behavior certain to cause tension, hostility and discipline problems.

But Clinton and the Clintonites - most of whom have not given one day of national service in their lives - plowed ahead. This of course would have directly affected 17 and 18 year old recruits - who would have had to contend with someone making a move on them.

The massive opposition to Clinton's action soon resulted in a mandate against lifting the ban from a bipartisan group of moderate and conservative U. S. Senators and members of Congress.

Clinton then tried an end-run. On Sept. 28, 1993, Rep. Marty Meehan brought up for a vote in Congress (Democrats had control at this time) an Administration-approved amendment which would override the Congressional mandate and permit Clinton to lift the ban.

The amendment (Roll Call Vote #460) went down to defeat 264-169. (It is instructive to view the names of the 169 Congressmen who voted for it (i.e., open gays in the military),including from Ohio: Ted Strickland and Sherrod Brown.)

Following this, a military panel (not Clinton) put forth the suggested "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy, which was then adopted by majority vote in the Congress.

So Clinton and his fellow Democrats were not reluctant to put young people - some younger than the page who was propositioned at 18 by Foley - in a direct situation where moves could be made on them.

And, incidentally, destroying the Armed Forces of the United States.
17 posted on 10/07/2006 5:25:22 AM PDT by mtntop3
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