Men being men is a bad deal Guys should evolve beyond masculinity(3 bag barfer)

San Francisco Cronicle ^ | Sunday, October 8, 2006 | Robert Jensen

[US Navy guy]

It's hard to be a man; hard to live up to the demands that come with the dominant conception of masculinity, of the tough guy.

[rlmorel]

Wow. Very, very well put.

I believe that men and women are not only physically and behaviorally different (in many ways), but are actually hardwired in our brains very differently.

Liberals like this guy believe that sewing a penis on a woman and removing her breasts will make her a man, and vice versa. I just don't believe it.

[SteveMcKing]

Even when women initiate, queers somehow believe that they are being tricked, raped, or coerced in some way. They don't believe that any lady could ever want sex.

Probably because no girl would ever want them.

[rlmorel]

Boy, no kidding.

The VAST, VAST majority of men do not engage in rape or battery, although some like this author, would like to redefine rape and battery to include something as innocuous as a "look".

[SteveMcKing]

"Mr Garrison" taught me how to type as well.... oops.

[MineralMan]

"Or taking a leak outside the tent during a hunting trip."

Hah! Real men just take a leak inside the tent. Only wussy boys go outside. Ah...the smell of urine-soaked sleeping bags....

[metesky]

This by the way is coming from a guy that says we deserved 9/11...

[rlmorel]

LOL...it reminds me of that old saw:

A woman marries a man, hoping he will change, and he never does. A man marries a woman, hoping she will never change, and she always does..."

[Savage Beast]

"Or taking a leak outside the tent during a hunting trip. Or drinking beer and eating a bunch of little smokies in BBQ sauce while watching a football game"

Right on, DB!

If you like hunting, football, beer, and barBQ, that's for you. If you don't, it's not. It has nothing to do with masculinity.

Personally, I hate hunting, don't like football, like beer, like barBQ sauce but not the meat, and love camping out or just being in the wilderness.

All men are different. So are all women.

On the other hand--pardon the metaphor--there are biological concerns with taking a leak that are distinctively masculine, and these demand certain social distinctions.

For example--men can do it standing up, which is very convenient. It also enables us to avoid certain complications like poison ivy dermatitis or snake bites that women cannot as easily avoid.

On the other hand, I've been hit with a really bad poison oak dermatitis--for distinctively masculine reasons--that no woman could ever experience (for one thing, she wouldn't have the anatomy).

Ever notice how much men urinate in the wilderness? I've wondered if this is the same thing as marking territory, like the animals do.

Message to Brothers: Be very careful if there's poison oak around.

[sd-joe]

>> "At the more intimate level, the stakes are just as high." <<

MEN don't use the word "intimate".

[Valin]

I think what he meant to say was, I'm in ta mating.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Competition, dominance and violence are human characteristics and are not gender specific.

Just witness when women compete for male attention at the workplace... very subtle, but it is vicious and savage... much more so than men competing for female attention...

[Dudesdad]

Sounds "whipped" to me.

[dighton]

Where to start on this one.

“The United States has lost the war in Iraq, and that’s a good thing.”

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else.

Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.

H. G. RICKOVER

Excellent description of what it means to be a man.

The definition of what is and what is not manliness couldn't be more clear than between "slick willie" and our current president.

[Beagle8U]

"I wonder where that hickey came from"

Its not a hickey, someone punched him in the neck in an attempt to break it and shut him up.

[Vision]

Men being men is a bad deal Guys should evolve beyond masculinity

I love this. Effeminate men always get bitchy when they know they can't measure up to real men.

[Tahoe3002]

Mr. Robert Jensen, SF Chronicle, STFU. If YOU have a problem being a man that is your problem, not MINE.

I have no problem at all being a white male, veteran, over 55, married 23 years (to the same lady). Served my country for seven years active duty, another 9 in USMC Reserves. Raised my stepson to be a productive, independent MAN, who has produced two beautiful daughters, by the same wife.

[gotribe]

It's hard to be a man; hard to live up to the demands that come with the dominant conception of masculinity, of the tough guy.

Not really, I do it every day. Which is probably why this author would never work for me.

[nevergore]

Put on some Barbara Streisand music, light a candle...

You'll feel your rage magically slip away but will get the sudden urge to interior decorate your house :^)

[kinoxi]

Why dothn't anybady lithen to me? This is thereal!
:)