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Court says UPS discriminated against deaf drivers
AP ^ | 10/10/6 | DAVID KRAVETS

Posted on 10/10/2006 12:59:50 PM PDT by SmithL

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To: SmithL
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court

AGNSTA...

41 posted on 10/10/2006 1:31:32 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Well, my days of not taking your seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: L98Fiero

If I were blind I would be sueing the hell out of them. /s


42 posted on 10/10/2006 1:32:32 PM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: SmithL
"Each deaf person has to be assessed individually to make a determination, just like a hearing person, as to whether they can safely drive a UPS truck," he added. "That's all we ever asked."

I completely agree. They are deaf, not blind -- two totally different disabilities. A deaf person can operate a vehicle just fine and probably more observant of their surroundings than the hearing.

43 posted on 10/10/2006 1:33:46 PM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: jonascord
Wow, that makes perfect sense.

They always say two heads are better than one.

44 posted on 10/10/2006 1:34:33 PM PDT by rocksblues (Liberals will stop at nothing.)
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To: VRWCTexan
Please explain why companies should be forced to pay extra money by the government so that people the companies were mandated to hire, regardless of skills or abilities, can demand more and more "rights".

The ideas of handicapped derived "entitlements" is PC run amok.

45 posted on 10/10/2006 1:36:11 PM PDT by jonascord ("Let 'em burn!...")
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To: VRWCTexan

The real problem is in the well meaning but damaging Americans With Disabilities Act. Like OSHA, good intnetions organized into a bureacracy always result in negative unintended consequences.


46 posted on 10/10/2006 1:39:25 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: flutters

It's against the law in most (all?) states to drive wearing headphones. Wonder what the reasoning is behind that?


47 posted on 10/10/2006 1:44:52 PM PDT by scan59 (No matter where you go, there you are.)
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To: jonascord
This is all very confusing to me. PArt of California CDL requirements include:

"What Are The Other Requirements For A CDL?

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations require drivers to be at least 21 years old and pass a physical examination once every 2 years. The main physical requirements include good hearing, 20/40 vision with or without glasses or corrective lenses, and a 70-degree field of vision in each eye. Drivers must not be colorblind."

http://www.testquestionsandanswers.com/cdl/california.html

Can the 9th Curcus overule that by fiat? Don't think so.

48 posted on 10/10/2006 1:46:08 PM PDT by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: SmithL
If I'd known I could have driven for UPS, I would have signed up. I'm deaf and read lips.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

49 posted on 10/10/2006 1:47:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: -YYZ-
Many deaf people drive safely, especially with some accomodations to their disability, as the article mentions.

I see young kids driving by with music blaring so loud, they may as well be deaf.

CTTOI, our UPS driver has a DeWalt boom box thumping away in the cab of his truck.
50 posted on 10/10/2006 1:48:02 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: SmithL

So....exactly WHY do trains blow their horns when they approach a crossing?


51 posted on 10/10/2006 1:51:50 PM PDT by Lekker 1 (("...the world will be...eleven degrees colder by the year 2000" -- K. Watt, Earth Day, 1970)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Hi. You're deaf, I'm a lawyer, and I'm gonna use you to make me rich.

I am hearing impaired, and I have been driving for 30 years without a moving accident or a moving violation. My father drove for more than 50 years while completely deaf without an accident or moving violation. I know many hearing impaired and deaf people with near perfect driving records. On the other hand, I know many people with near perfect hearing who can't drive out of a parking lot without hitting something.

The court did not tell UPS that it had to hire every hearing impaired person who applies for a job, but rather, that UPS could not automatically exclude applicants from consideration simply because they're hearing impaired. The court's decision is consistent with the Americans with Disabilities Act, and while we can debate whether the ADA is a good law or a bad law, the undisputed fact is that it is the law. For once, the 9th Circuit applied the law as written without allowing judicial advocism to run amok.

52 posted on 10/10/2006 1:51:54 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: scan59
My best guess is that this is an older law and hearing people wearing headphones are concentrating more on their music than the road. Similar to the way cell phones distract so many drivers today.
53 posted on 10/10/2006 1:52:05 PM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: Cobra64
Not at our bank's drive-up cash machine. It has braille on the buttons.

I always find that disturbing to say the least....

54 posted on 10/10/2006 1:55:05 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: flutters
My best guess is that this is an older law and hearing people wearing headphones are concentrating more on their music than the road. Similar to the way cell phones distract so many drivers today.

Good point about the cell phones. It's also valid that loud, booming music tends to totally distract a driver. When I'm in a difficult driving situation, the first thing I do is turn the radio waaay down just to be able to focus and concentrate. (Wife and daughter complain, but hey, who's the pilot and who's the crew?)

55 posted on 10/10/2006 1:56:20 PM PDT by scan59 (No matter where you go, there you are.)
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To: Cobra64
Not at our bank's drive-up cash machine. It has braille on the buttons.

ATM machines are manufactured 'one size fits all" - that machine might end up in a lobby, hospital, convinience store, or built into the wall for drive-up use.

56 posted on 10/10/2006 1:59:16 PM PDT by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: Hoodat

"Driving deaf is a serious safety issue."

You'd think so, but it's not true. I grew up with deaf parents, uncles, cousins, and assorted family friends. On average, they're safer drivers. I suppose their other senses are more acute. My dad drove for 50 years without a single accident, and my mom has been driving for 50+ years with just one accident (as a 4-year-old, I distracted her).

In any case, what's the difference between a deaf driver and a hearing driver who is listening to a loud radio? And finally, you don't see many deaf drivers chatting on cell phones, do ya?


57 posted on 10/10/2006 2:11:00 PM PDT by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Crust ... Anti-Hillary)
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To: SmithL

Must be 'cause you wouldn't be able to talk to the dots.


58 posted on 10/10/2006 2:11:17 PM PDT by hotshu
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To: SJSAMPLE

Yeah, thanks 41.


59 posted on 10/10/2006 2:14:27 PM PDT by hotshu
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To: tubebender

Dale Jarrett says "What???"


60 posted on 10/10/2006 2:16:11 PM PDT by hotshu
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