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US fears 'hell' of a response
au ^ | October 12, 2006 | Mark Dunn

Posted on 10/11/2006 7:03:38 PM PDT by Flavius

PLANS previously drafted by the Pentagon predict 52,000 US military casualties and one million civilian dead in the first 90 days of conflict if America attacked Pyongyang. The US leadership is looking at international economic and diplomatic sanctions against North Korea as its primary response to Monday's nuclear test.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: exterminatethepests; getitoverwith; goodbyechiapet; kimjongmakesusill; northkorea
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To: StormEye

No need to go nuke the North Koreans.

I say we just carpet bomb all of North Korea with buckets of KFC, drop some Big Macs, Whoppers, White Castle sliders, etc.

I am sure the shock of eating food, especially fast food would send their digestive systems into complete shock and they would all drop over dead.

Although by doing this we would risk getting a nasty letter of condemnation from the U.N. and there would be special invesigations and lawsuits.

Hmmm, ok, your right, lets just nuke the bastards!


141 posted on 10/11/2006 8:32:41 PM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: Texas Songwriter
Perhaps.

However, the SOP for a war with NK is to lay down a nuclear "wall" at the 38th parallel...or shortly below it. There has been no plan for a ground war in Korea for AT LEAST 30 years. The US has only one response to a NK invasion of the south, nukes and more nukes.

142 posted on 10/11/2006 8:35:06 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: magellan

Once hostilities open, the precision muntions approach would work. The problem is 10,000 artillery tubes within range of Seoul, some equipped with nerve gas shells, can do a hell of a lot of damage even if each gets only one shot. The problem with the precision munitions approach isn't with the kill ratio--doubtless comparable to tac nukes--but the kill *rate*. Tac nukes strike me as the only way to take out a large enough percentage of them quickly enough to preserve Seoul more-or-less intact.


143 posted on 10/11/2006 8:35:17 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: All
back when this started, they overran US forces and the remnants fell back where the NoKo's and ChiComms failed to
finish us off. We regained the footing at Pusan and countered with the Inchon landing which pinched their forces in and have the stalemate we see today.
Their mistake was not being able to strike with overwhelming force and kill us off before we had the chance to regroup and counter attack. They won't make that mistake again. They will either kill all the US forces in a bum rush over the border of their 1MM pieces of human debris or use their tunnels to cut off the withdrawal routes and encircle and capture/kill them. This would have to be done within 36-72 hours pr they know they're toast.
If they were to achieve that goal, Seoul and it's millions of civilians would be their hostages with an atomic weapon to their heads and they would sue for peace.
Unlike in the past, when this country had some guts, they would have the willing traitors of the Democrat party and the US media as their unflinching allies.

This cannot be allowed to happen.
144 posted on 10/11/2006 8:40:00 PM PDT by newnhdad (All your government branches are belong to us!! not for long if this cr@p keeps up.)
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To: Star Traveler

The U.S. has allowed a military build-up for a long time. It doesn't seem to make any difference to the U.S.

Nothing like the massing of millions of troops on the border has occurred.

There was lots of "yapping" at Saddam for years too. Now he is in jail.


145 posted on 10/11/2006 8:44:23 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: familyop

Sorry, but these are Orientals, and they are much tougher than Iraquis.


146 posted on 10/11/2006 8:44:32 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: theymakemesick

Tis a good thing I'm not the President. Long story short.... I'd ask Rummy to "take out the trash."


147 posted on 10/11/2006 8:46:07 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Are they tougher baked or broiled?


148 posted on 10/11/2006 8:51:10 PM PDT by familyop
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To: The Drowning Witch
The MAD Doctrine works, but ONLY IF YOUR OPPONENT LOVES LIFE AS MUCH AS YOU DO.

We don't have that luxury with Islam. We're dicking around with religious fanatics not seen since the 7th century. Religious fanatics who want to kill unbelievers on scale of the Crusades, only they want to do it in the blink of an eye. With a radioactive fire that burns for a thousand years.

Sad but very true. Which is why we desperately need rigorous enforcement of our borders. It's going to be some nut cases smuggling components for a bunch of dirty bombs and God knows what else that is going to wind up wreaking havoc upon us one day ( God forbid ).

149 posted on 10/11/2006 8:55:06 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Flavius

Can we send in a bunker buster to nail his wine/whiskey celler? That would send him into the DT's and he won't have a fighting chance.


150 posted on 10/11/2006 8:57:15 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Texas Songwriter
"We will detonate only if we are hit with WMD."

Like with did with Iraq, right?

Doesn't wash, does it?

151 posted on 10/11/2006 9:02:25 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: magellan

South Korea should be learning to use their shelters. With luck they won't come off "much" worse than the Israelis. But it won't be nice.


152 posted on 10/11/2006 9:04:05 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: ZULU

Sounds like a plan. Let;s stop pretending that Kim is anything but a puppet. If he were not, he would be gone tomorrow.


153 posted on 10/11/2006 9:06:50 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Flavius

Why would we lose any US military? Just fly over and drop stuff.


154 posted on 10/11/2006 9:08:58 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Texas Songwriter
Within 5 hours the NOrth Koreans would send 1 million men across the demilitarized zone and overwhelm our forces as well as kill a million in Seoul.

That's only if there were a million of them left alive.

155 posted on 10/11/2006 9:11:21 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Flavius

This makes no sense. They can't come and get us, but we can sure bomb the snot out of them with our superior firepower.

How do they figure 52K US servicemen?


156 posted on 10/11/2006 9:12:43 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Gradient Vector
And Truman faught a war against Korea, and he didn't nuke them

Truman fought a war against the Red Chinese, after whipping the North Koreans. He didn't nuke them it's true, but he didn't beat them either.

157 posted on 10/11/2006 9:16:40 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: McGavin999
"Just fly over and drop stuff."

Slip in an order for one nuke with our next order of cheap shoes from China and have them drop-ship it to NK (from high altitude). It'll give a whole new meaning to drop-shipments.

158 posted on 10/11/2006 9:18:47 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Cobra64
Okay. I don't pretend to be a four star, but what would you do?

To be honest, I don't know. However, this is a good thread even if it's filled with speculation that ranges from the wild-eyed to the semi-serious.

I don't think nukes is feasible but the situation is very frustrating. My father fought in the Korean War and it was just horrible, the weather, terrain, and the men getting cut down by an endless stream of Chinese "volunteers."

159 posted on 10/11/2006 9:28:51 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'm guessing some MOABs would do the trick!

Actually for all but the softest targets, an equivalent weight of cluster bombs would be more effective. Precision guided bombs to take out command and control, any artillery that still had crews to service it, and any tanks or other armored vehicles. Although we have a sort of cluster bomb like affair, CBU-97 that's hell on armored vehicles too. (At one point, the submunitions were called "Skeet", very appropriate really).

160 posted on 10/11/2006 9:29:32 PM PDT by El Gato
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