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To: Thalos
Why try to justify or defend him?

And I've seen THIS kind of comment on FR too often the past few weeks. What's wrong with it is I'm doing no such thing--why do you have the need to get on your moral high horse and accuse me of such?

I am talking exclusively about how this kind of situation is treated by the mainstream media. Why can't you see that? I expressed it simply enough. I defy you to cut and paste where I justified or defended Foley--go ahead.

You can't. Because I didn't.

Discussions of morality are complex. Reducing them as you have is pointless and in fact dangerous. I don't have to say "Foley is scum and I'm glad he quit, and he should be investigated for this" every...single...time to prove my moral bona fides to you, whoever you are. It's like op-ed columns that don't begin with "This is my opinion"--it's a given.

As for the Studds situation, he remained in office for years after he was exposed, so to speak, during the Reagan years--hardly a time of liberal excess. Clinton DID get away with it--what planet are you living on? Where was the resignation? Neither Studds nor Clinton resigned over actual sexual situations--Foley did (PROPERLY I repeat for those who refuse to get it) for TALKING about it.

Disagree with me all you want, but please--disagree with what I wrote, not about things I didn't write so you can show us how wonderful you are.

9 posted on 10/12/2006 1:20:42 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-life)
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To: Darkwolf377
What's wrong with it is I'm doing no such thing--why do you have the need to get on your moral high horse and accuse me of such?

Alright, you did not try to defend him. What you did say was
moral judgments are put on hold these days until the political positions of the players are known; THEN "being judgmental" is just fine.
You also say
Foley did ... for TALKING about it.
To me, these are attempts to downplay his crimes and deflect the negative attention. The only way to succeed is to give up the moral high ground the Republicans have established.

I'm also saying that these days, even Democrats don't stand this kind of behavior. Give a job to your gay lover? Gone. The rest of the party doesn't receive the widespread negative attention Foley has brought on because they never established they were the party that doesn't do this kind of thing. Even so, the negative attention is part of the reason a liberal senator is losing in a liberal state.

Re: Vagina Monologues: Well, yeah--that was my point. So what's your problem with it?

No problem. I was agreeing with you :P

20 posted on 10/12/2006 7:28:27 AM PDT by Thalos
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To: Darkwolf377

I feel sorry for Foley. I don't think he did anything wrong, gag, choke. I mean nothing illegal.


25 posted on 10/12/2006 9:34:09 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Face it, every empire comes to an end, and ours is on the down hill slope.)
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