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NY Times Finally Finds Front Where It Favors Force - Darfur
NY Times/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/12/2006 4:08:30 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

view edit Posted by Mark Finkelstein on October 12, 2006 - 06:58. There's a saying along the lines that liberals will always oppose the use of US force - except where US security interests are not at stake. The New York Times editorial of this morning, The Age of Impunity, provides a perfect case in point.

The central thesis is this:

"Bush has squandered so much of America’s moral authority — not to mention our military resources — that efforts to shame or bully the right behavior from adversaries (and allies) sound hollow."

Along the way, the Times recommends that Pres. Bush pander to the rogue regimes in Pyongyang and Tehran by making "a clear pledge — no caveats and no fingers crossed behind his back - that he would not try to overthrow" their governments.

But, after tacitly approving of Pres. Clinton's use of force in Kosovo, the Times flatly recommends force be considered in a place with no arguable US national security interests in play - Darfur.

The Gray Lady suggests that the president announce "that he was taking the lead on soliciting troops for a peacekeeping force while asking NATO to start drawing up plans for a possible forced entry should the United Nations fail to act."

Classic.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: darfur; iraq; kosovo; nkorea; nygt
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1 posted on 10/12/2006 4:08:31 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

NY Times/NewsBusters Times-favors-force ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 10/12/2006 4:09:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Did the NYT mention in the article that the Darfur crisis is ALSO caused by Islamic Fascists.......or did they tip toe around the fact? Just curious.


3 posted on 10/12/2006 4:14:07 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
They will "support" action in Darfur right up until it becomes uncomfortable. Once the casualty numbers start to come in and TRUE Sacrifices are made the liberals will turn and scream quagmire, once again.

I personally think Darfur needs to be cleaned up but NOT by us supplying the bulk of force. It's time the rest of the world and those in africa that want to be civilized step up to the plate.

4 posted on 10/12/2006 4:16:02 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and Apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You gotta love it. Bush HAS been the world leader doing the most for Darfur. But now the Slimes, having ripped Bush for not getting full UN approval for use of force in Iraq, now wants him to circumvent the UN like Clinton did with Kosovo.


5 posted on 10/12/2006 4:18:46 AM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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To: penelopesire
Did the NYT mention in the article that the Darfur crisis is ALSO caused by Islamic Fascists.......or did they tip toe around the fact? Just curious.

Excellent point. I went back and checked. Nope - no reference to that angle on the crisis, just a neutral description of "Sudan's leaders" and the "Khartoum" government.

6 posted on 10/12/2006 4:19:37 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The NY Times would just LOVE lots of pics of Black Africans shot by mostly-white US troops.

No Republican president is going to be eager for that

7 posted on 10/12/2006 4:21:43 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
NY Times Finally Finds Front Where It Favors Force - Darfur

He-e-e--e--e-ll==============================o. Uh, Venezuela, North Korea, and Iran....hmmm.

8 posted on 10/12/2006 4:22:30 AM PDT by 100-Fold_Return (Soros hates MEGA-churches, Televanglists, and Wal-Mart)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

last spring,i believe the NYT ran a big advertising supplement on the glories of the Sudan, paid for by the murderous Khartoum regime, for which it received big bucks. that would seem to compromise its moral authority on this and many other issues.


9 posted on 10/12/2006 4:26:50 AM PDT by avital2
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"They will "support" action in Darfur right up until it becomes uncomfortable."

THEN they will say, "But we had no idea that Bush would manage it so badly."

10 posted on 10/12/2006 4:28:29 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
liberals will always oppose the use of US force - except where US security interests are not at stake.

Been there, done that with Somalia. No thanks NYTimes.

11 posted on 10/12/2006 4:46:06 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Kakaze

One word... Ebola.


12 posted on 10/12/2006 4:54:29 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: penelopesire

Darfur, Syria, Iran, Palestine, Iraq, it's all the same problem Islamofascism.


13 posted on 10/12/2006 5:07:50 AM PDT by tom paine 2
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

HYPOCRISY IN ACTION, AGAIN


14 posted on 10/12/2006 5:14:16 AM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

They only advocate force there because we haven't used it there... once we do, they will denounce our approach, the "disproportionate" (or else inadequate) use of force, our relations with the local rulers, etc. They simply dissent because of the party in the White House. They have no substantive thoughts behind their opinions.


15 posted on 10/12/2006 5:16:52 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317

Getting troops to Darfur could be as bloody as invading Normandy. Once you get there, what are you going to do?


16 posted on 10/12/2006 5:30:14 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The proper response:
Send a few C-130 loads of captured Islamic AK-47s and scoped Mosin-Naigant rifles to Darfur. Accompany them with enough SF troops to give some small-arms training to the folks in Darfur.
Let them defend themselves.
It'll work.
Cheap.


17 posted on 10/12/2006 5:34:12 AM PDT by Flintlock (Keep yer powder dry--yer gonna need it.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

lol...go figure..(rolling eyes)

They never mention that aspect of the crisis!!


18 posted on 10/12/2006 5:39:38 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I don't recall who is paying for it, but an ad about the horror in Darfur has been running for awhile. Showing Africans in obvious distress, it says "if he is killed, if she is raped...again; if he starves...", etc. Maybe a tech savvy FReeper can post a link to it.

It finishes with the message to call President Bush and tell him to stop the genocide. The purpose is undoubtedly to lead the uninformed to believe that the Bush administration is responsible for the situation.

The depths to which the left will sink have not yet been plumbed.


19 posted on 10/12/2006 6:11:53 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: Eva

Darfur oil ping.


20 posted on 10/12/2006 6:56:36 AM PDT by Sender (Error 404: tagline not found)
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